[Tagging] Concrete vs concrete:plates should we simplify?

Evan Carroll me at evancarroll.com
Tue Sep 13 03:37:03 UTC 2022


There are two materials currently available for selection in StreetComplete
and documented on the wiki that we should re-evaluate:

* concrete
* concrete:plates

Personally, I'm 90% sure concrete:plates is being used wrong and should be
deprecated. Basically there are two camps,


   - Those that instinctively see any concrete "plates" separated by tar,
   dirt, or a gap with wood, or otherwise hear "thump thump" when driving on
   them (one way it was described to me) and think that these are "panels".
   Another way this camp has described `concrete:plates` is "clearly see the
   plates and the regular gaps". I believe this leads one to believe,
   incorrectly, that a transverse joint in a road makes the concrete:panel.
   - Those that read the wiki which describes that plates are "Heavy-duty
   plates chained closely together" that should be "pre-fabricated", with
   concrete:plates only being used when "you know how the concrete is laid
   out". That is to say that concrete:plate is in reference to "Precast
   Concrete Deck Panels" which is a more search-friendly term. This camp does
   not believe a "concrete:panel" is concrete poured on site with a transverse
   joint.

Note _most_ concrete roads built professionally are going to be built with
"transverse joints" the question here is whether or not concrete with
"transverse joints" "concrete:plate". I'm going to suppose the answer is
no. If it's not, and we can't really differentiate between a
"pre-fabricated plate" and a concrete poured on site with a transverse
joint, it seems the best course action is to simplify and deprecate
concrete:plate, offering just "concrete". Note if you want to see even
bigger joints that can be poured into concrete and result in mistagging,
check out an "expansion joint" on google.

I'm not an expert on concrete. But I don't think the wiki on
concrete:plates is useful, I don't think "pre-fabricated", "chained closely
together", "heavy-duty plates" that require you to "know how the concrete
is laid out" describe the current use of "concrete:plates". I also don't
think this is at all useful. What's the goal of differentiating concrete vs
concrete:plates anyway?

This topic is inspired by
https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/85524/concrete-vs-concrete-plates
https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/4344

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