[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

Tod Fitch tod at fitchfamily.org
Thu Sep 15 15:16:08 UTC 2022



> On Sep 15, 2022, at 6:19 AM, Janko Mihelić <janjko at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> čet, 15. ruj 2022. u 14:52 Peter Elderson <pelderson at gmail.com <mailto:pelderson at gmail.com>> napisao je:
> Which combination(s) of highway values, sac scale values and hazard values would exclusively represent a scramble (Dutch verb: klauteren, i.e. going up or down there using hands and feet) to a grown-up, non-challenged, average hiker without climbing skills and without special gear other then a cane, hiking shoes and gloves?
> 
> Any of the three combinations:
> 
> highway=path + sac_scale=alpine_hiking
> highway=path + sac_scale=demanding_alpine_hiking
> highway=path + sac_scale=difficult_alpine_hiking
> 

And probably highway=footway with those same sac_scale values.

You might also want to consider trail_visibility values of “bad”, “horrible”, and “no”.

Interpreting OSM tags to decide if a way is a hiking trail is a hot mess. In my hiking map rendering I look at over a dozen tags, individually and in combination, to decide if a way is a hiking trail or not. Obviously this is not ideal and we should consider a better way of dealing with this.

Even though I think improvements in hiking trail tagging are good to be considered, this highway=scramble strikes me as being a first cut at best and its entire purpose is to remove some specific items from the  rendering as displayed at https://www.openstreetmap.org/ In other words, its intent is “tagging for the renderer” which is against the general philosophy of tagging in OSM.

Tod
OSM editing ID: n76
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