[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - yarn shops

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Thu Jan 5 08:01:09 UTC 2023


On 5/1/23 11:19, Nate Wessel wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm going to try to summarize some of my thoughts / findings on this 
> issue thanks to all the helpful feedback here so far.
>
> I took a good look through (randomish sample) everything tagged 
> shop=wool <https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1pJG>, and in particular those 
> with websites. It does seem like these are almost entirely shops 
> selling yarn, though I did find at least one that wasn't but was also 
> a plausible "wool" shop with no yarn: https://www.eaglewools.com.au/
>
> For the most part, I'm happy to have found a somewhat more established 
> tag that basically matches what I was proposing here 
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/yarn_shops>. 
> Though as I and some others have noted, I think the primary thing here 
> is that the shop sells /yarn/ (and knitting etc supplies), regardless 
> of whether the yarn is made of wool or silk or hemp or eyelashes or 
> whatever. Is "wool shop" a British English thing? I (North American) 
> really hadn't heard of that before this and would have called this a 
> "yarn shop" or "knitting shop". I even found that language on some 
> English language websites I looked at.
>
> Random aside: The Polish(?) wiki page 
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pl:Tag:shop%3Dwool> for shop=wool 
> does seem to mention yarn and knitting directly.
>
> Anyway, if there is consensus that `shop=wool` is an accepted tag for 
> a store selling /yarn/, I'm happy to list `shop=yarn` as a deprecated 
> tagging on that page and proceed with shop=wool.
>
> With all that in mind, I went ahead and edited the (English) wiki 
> pages for shop=[ wool, sewing, haberdashery, fabric ] to try and more 
> clearly separate and identify these. For the moment, the difference 
> between a sewing shop and a haberdashery is still unclear to me; is a 
> sewing shop just a haberdashery that also has some sewing machines 
> and/or fabric? ...but that can be a conversation for another day.
>
> Let me restate some assumptions for the sake of debate:
> * shop=wool is a shop that sells yarn, even if there is no literal 
> wool on premises
> * a shop selling nothing but wool fabric is shop=fabric (stores do 
> specialize in wool suiting)
> * a shop selling nothing but wool clothes is shop=clothes
>
> Thoughts?
>
>

Agree with

* a shop selling nothing but wool fabric is shop=fabric (stores do 
specialize in wool suiting)
* a shop selling nothing but wool clothes is shop=clothes


Disagree with

* shop=wool is a shop that sells yarn, even if there is no literal wool 
on premises


I think it would be better with shop=knitting, or shop=yarn. There are 
some 28 shop=knitting, mostly UK, out to Turkie and USA..

Consider that acrylic yarn is now also available.

I think 'knitting' is better as that covers not only the yarn.

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Haberdasher made an appearance in Chaucer's Canterbury Tales... so it is 
an old term.

There remain some specialists

https://www.williamgee.co.uk/product-category/haberdashery/
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