[Tagging] How to Tag Steps in a Bridleway

Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Mon Apr 29 10:49:22 UTC 2024


1) at least some people may be interested in places where cycling across
steps is legal (not fan of MTBing etc but at least some people like it?
not really sure here about whether it is actually something that people
look for )

2) people may be interested in places where cyclists nominally have
right of the way but actual infrastructure is not suitable for cycling

3) yes, routers need to look also on other tags and process various
obstacles (see also surface=sand and so

And in general meaning is clear: these are steps were cyclist are
allowed to cycle.

Note it does not mean that cycling is feasible or a good idea there.

Apr 29, 2024, 08:36 by tagging at openstreetmap.org:

> Generally speaking, how do we reconcile these two?
>  
>  bicycle=yes
> highway=steps
>  
>  What is a data consumer supposed to infer from this as opposed        to just highway=steps? As long as foot=designated, aren't        cyclists always allowed to get off the bike and push/carry it?        And wouldn't they have to when there are steps?
>
> Jens
>  
>  On 28/04/2024 21:35, Peter Neale via Tagging wrote:
>
>> Hi DaveF,
>>
>> Acting on advice, I have            already split the Bridleway and re-tagged 2 sections as:
>>
>> bicycle=yes
>> designation=public_bridleway
>> foot=designated
>> highway=steps
>> horse=designated
>> incline=down  (or up)
>> lit=no
>> surface=paved
>>
>> The steps can be seen on            aerial imagery (a bit fuzzy on Bing, but particularly clear            in the aerial imagery whose name shall not be mentioned in            OSM), plus I remember running through there a few  months            ago, so I know that the steps are there.   I intend to visit            again soon and add more detail (number of steps, etc.)
>>
>> Between these is a section            of the orignal way, which is now >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1277843368
>>
>> I hope this helps and that            you agree with the tagging.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Peter
>>
>> (PeterPan99)
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, 28 April 2024 at 17:35:58 BST, Dave F via            Tagging >> <tagging at openstreetmap.org> <mailto:tagging at openstreetmap.org>>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Could you provide the link to the OSM way please?
>>  DaveF
>>
>> On                    28/04/2024 15:19, Peter Neale via Tagging wrote:
>>
>>> Advice, please.
>>>
>>> A local Public Bridleway has a few                        (3, 4 or 5 from Aerial imagery) steps going down                        before it passes under a road bridge, and a                        similar number up again on the other side.
>>>
>>> How can I best tag this?  According                        to the wiki, "highway=steps" seems to be *an                        alternative to*, not *a qualification of *                        "highway=bridleway". I don't want to mislead                        consumers by breaking the bridleway, but I don't                        want cycling consumers to be unaware of the fact                        that there are a few steps to descend / ascend,                        which may require a dismount.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> (PeterPan99)
>>>
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