[Tagging] Difference between "yes" and "designated" in access tags

[Jens Glad Balchen]

I would re-iterate Martin's assertion.

In Norway, we tag bicycle=designated/foot=designated when there is a 
traffic sign for cycleway/footway/combined. Implicit in this logic is 
that the consequence of the traffic sign is a different legal status 
compared to an unsigned road. A route sign is not a traffic sign and 
causes no change in legal status. We would not use =designated nor =yes 
merely because of a route sign. The route sign tells us to add a route 
relation to the way.

Jens

On 30/04/2024 10:49, Szem wrote:
> There was a similar conversation in the Hungarian community as well. I 
> would like to ask what you think about such (and similar) official 
> bicycle route signs:
> https://www.google.hu/maps/@47.4675022,18.8055463,3a,35.3y,85.25h,81.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_4lLYsjnTzP_R_swduneHg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
> https://www.google.hu/maps/@47.4653939,18.8056303,3a,16.7y,337.24h,87.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5KRYaFzRIWPFrMwQBrYf9g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
> do they imply a bicycle=designated value for the road if it is not a 
> cycleway (because it is unnecessary for that), or is it enough to just 
> put the lcn/rcn etc. value on the road.
> Thanks, Szem
>
> 2024.04.30. 09:09 keltezéssel, Martin Koppenhoefer írta:
>>
>>
>> sent from a phone
>>
>>> On 30 Apr 2024, at 08:51, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     In fact, some bicycle trails are signed where
>>>     cycling is illegal
>>>
>>>
>>> So does that then make it legal?
>>
>>
>> no, in Germany it also happens from time to time that we discover 
>> signposted bicycle routes where cycling is legally forbidden, often 
>> presumably because the signs are not “correct” (not what is 
>> intended), and the legal conclusion from such a situation is you have 
>> to push the bike on such sections. Route markers do not change legal 
>> accessibility as defined by traffic signs.
>>
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