[Tagging] [OSM-talk] make water sources more usable by marking disused ones with lifecycle prefix, rather than extra tags like operational_status = out_of_order

[Niels Elgaard Larsen]

Martin Koppenhoefer:
> Am Fr., 11. Apr. 2025 um 20:49 Uhr schrieb Niels Elgaard Larsen <elgaard at agol.dk 
> <mailto:elgaard at agol.dk>>:
> 
>     I have added and updated many water_point s.
>     Sometimes they do not work.
>     But what if is just temporarily?
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> 
> then someone who sees it working can switch it back to active.

Most likely nobody will see it because who searches for disabled PIO's?

And I and many other mostly use OSM offline with e.g., OsmAnd.

So if a water point is out of service for a week before someone fix it, then it might 
take a month before I can find it with OsmAnd.

That is the reason that the wiki says not to use the construction to tag such 
short-term closures of ways.

In the Metro stations sometimes the elevator does not work. But we should not tag it 
as disused:highway=elevator.

It comes down to whether I think the water point will be working again in days, 
weeks, maybe months.

And water points do get repaired. Especially in busy paid motorhome stopovers in high 
season. This a photo of such a repair (this is the dump station, but I am sure they 
did check all services).

https://api.panoramax.xyz/#focus=pic&map=18/49.360278/9.147222&pic=1b1e802c-0600-48bc-9d72-4d773db4a1ce&speed=250&xyz=63.00/0.00/30

> Admittedly, support 
> for lifecycle prefixes is not great in every app, so you may find duplicates when the 
> thing goes back working, because the mapper didn't notice there was already a 
> "deactivated" item mapped.
> 
> 
>     In Spain there was a drought and water became very expensive, so some places just
>     turned if off. But most likely the water_point will work when there is no drought.
> 
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> 
> 
> same here, in a drought most drinking fountains were turned off, and as a result, 
> some have been entirely deleted (including rich tags and link to a specific picture)


-- 
Niels Elgaard Larsen