[Tagging] [OSM-talk] make water sources more usable by marking disused ones with lifecycle prefix, rather than extra tags like operational_status = out_of_order

[Niels Elgaard Larsen]

bkil:
> I hate it when random mappers delete and then add water taps to the
> same place every year. They switch some (but not all) of them off for
> the winter to protect against freezing. They reason that as the
> suspense in operation is longer than 1 month, it's following best
> practice. I beg to differ.

I agree. That is why I use "seasonal" and if known "opening_hours" rather than 
deleting water points.

We do the same for restaurants, camp sites, etc.

But the issue is when we do not have enough information. Often we do have 
information. A motorhome stopover may have a website that says e.g., that the water 
point works Mar-Nov. Or that it does have a water point even if a survey reveals the 
if is our of service at the moment.

But sometimes there is no website, mention on the internet, etc. Then IMHO we have to 
fall back on common sense. Does this non-working water point look like something that 
worked until recently and could be made to work again?

This no different from bars and restaurants. It the door is locked, it just might be 
a holiday, vacation etc. If we look through the windows and see rubble, thick layers 
of dust and spiderwebs, then the place probably went out of business.


>> Sure, for closures less than a month or so.  But I think this discussion
>> is mostly about longer-term breakage where there is no expectation of
>> fixing soon.

Precisely. But it might require some considering to determine if can be expected to 
be fixed soon.


>> Arguably, osmand should show a disused: entity perhaps grayed out and
>> maybe only at higher zoom, as that's useful informmation for someone.
>> Perhaps configurable.   That's an improvement for a particular rendered.


It is not so much about rendering as searching.
When you are traveling in a motorhome, you might search for e.g., water points within 
50 km.


>> My point is that we shouldn't leave things in the db marked as actually
>> existing because if they were properly marked some renderer might not
>> show it to someone who might have wished to know about it.
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Niels Elgaard Larsen