[talk-au] [OSM-talk] bulk loading towns/cities locations

Brent Easton b.easton at exemail.com.au
Wed Nov 21 05:33:20 GMT 2007

Hi Paul,

Bulk upload is complete.

There are bound to be places that are not on the file, so just add you need. 

There are also duplicates of existing places, I am cleaning up as I find them.


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On 21/11/2007 at 4:16 PM Paul  wrote:

>Whats the state of the loading of towns, I found that Tura Beach wasn't
>loaded (around 
>Merimbula) , I've added in now, just curious if your doing it one
>Thanks for your work so far.
>On 17/11/2007 7:28 AM, Brent Easton wrote:
>> Hi Mike,
>> Thanks for the offer, but once I got going, it wasn't that much work.
>All names are in now accross all NSW. Sydney has already been re-rendered.
>Just needs a little cleanup here and there.
>> Regards,
>> Brent.
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>> On 15/11/2007 at 3:04 PM Michael Collinson  wrote:
>>> Brent,
>>> I'd be happy to help out with Sydney as I guess most of the existing 
>>> place names were added by me.  I'm replying to you as well as the au 
>>> list as I'm not a member (I've absconded to Europe) and it may bounce.
>>> Mike
>>> At 12:01 AM 11/15/2007, Brent Easton wrote:
>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>> Are you on the talk-au list? I am copying my reply over there.
>>>> I have started uploading population centre data for NSW. I have 
>>>> tried as best as I can to remove any duplicates before uploading so 
>>>> as not to add to any existing towns, but I have probably missed a few.
>>>> I have done most of southern and western NSW and am starting on 
>>>> Northern NSW.  The specification of town size is a bit dodgy as you 
>>>> have seen and may need some adjustment.
>>>> I have been uploading by Local Government Area (LGA). I have not 
>>>> touched the ,major cities yet, but I also have data for all suburbs 
>>>> of Canberra, Sydnet and Newcastle. This will more of a problem to 
>>>> merge. Who would like to help? I can provide the full data for a 
>>>> given LGA in an Excel spreadsheet that automatically generated a 
>>>> suitable .osm file for loading into JOSM, or I can just supply the 
>>>> final .osm file.
>>>> Let me know which LGA's you are interested in and I will send. Reply 
>>>> to the talk-au list.
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Brent.
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>>>> On 15/11/2007 at 8:34 AM Paul  wrote:
>>>>> I see a some towns/villages has been loaded for NSW Australia.. good
>>> job..
>>>>> now I guess we need to remove duplicates...
>>>>> ie remove either the imported marker or existing as I notice some 
>>> places
>>>>> are marked as
>>>>> cities when they are small towns or villages
>>>>> Paul
>>>>> On 4/11/2007 5:47 PM, Brent Easton wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>> There are thousands of towns not loaded in Australia!
>>>>>> The good news is that there is a free set of data available from the
>>>>> Geographical Names Board that specifies every named location in
>>> Australia
>>>>> and specifies a Lat and Lon.
>>>>>> The bad news is that the data is only recorded to the nearest minute
>>>>> (from memory) which means that each name can be up to about 1.8km from
>>> it
>>>>> actual location, and all location with 1.8km of another end up in the
>>> same
>>>>> place.
>>>>>> We can load this data up fairly easily. There is a script that was
>>> used
>>>>> to load the equivalent data from Ireland.
>>>>>> The question is how useful this is, given the (in)accuracy of the
>>> data.
>>>>> It depends on what the Australian Community think.
>>>>>> I can see some advantage to this (if the existing names in Australia
>>>>> where removed before the upload) to give a rough location of towns,
>>>>> have always been hesitant because of the innacuracy. It also includes
>>>>> locations for all suburbs in cities, and these will just end up piled
>>>>> top of each other .
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Brent.
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>>>>>> On 4/11/2007 at 4:23 PM Paul  wrote:
>>>>>>> Is there a feature to bulk load the location of 
>>> towns/villages/cities
>>>>>>> etc..? ie just the marker for its location (not the ways)
>>>>>>> I found that there maybe several towns not loaded into OSM for
>>> Australia
>>>>>>> , so would it be easier to load these placemakers into the system in
>>>>> Bulk?
>>>>>>> Paul
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Brent Easton                       
University of Western Sydney                                   
Email: b.easton at uws.edu.au

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