[talk-au] [OSM-talk] bulk loading towns/cities locations

Paul mylists at wilsononline.id.au
Wed Nov 21 05:52:06 GMT 2007

Note I did see this in the file which is why I'm curious it wasn't included
ie Tura Beach

On 21/11/2007 4:33 PM, Brent Easton wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> Bulk upload is complete.
> There are bound to be places that are not on the file, so just add you need. 
> There are also duplicates of existing places, I am cleaning up as I find them.
> Regards,
> Brent.
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> On 21/11/2007 at 4:16 PM Paul  wrote:
>> Whats the state of the loading of towns, I found that Tura Beach wasn't
>> loaded (around 
>> Merimbula) , I've added in now, just curious if your doing it one
>> area-at-a-time
>> Thanks for your work so far.
>> Paul
>> On 17/11/2007 7:28 AM, Brent Easton wrote:
>>> Hi Mike,
>>> Thanks for the offer, but once I got going, it wasn't that much work.
>> All names are in now accross all NSW. Sydney has already been re-rendered.
>> Just needs a little cleanup here and there.
>>> Regards,
>>> Brent.
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>>> On 15/11/2007 at 3:04 PM Michael Collinson  wrote:
>>>> Brent,
>>>> I'd be happy to help out with Sydney as I guess most of the existing 
>>>> place names were added by me.  I'm replying to you as well as the au 
>>>> list as I'm not a member (I've absconded to Europe) and it may bounce.
>>>> Mike
>>>> At 12:01 AM 11/15/2007, Brent Easton wrote:
>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>> Are you on the talk-au list? I am copying my reply over there.
>>>>> I have started uploading population centre data for NSW. I have 
>>>>> tried as best as I can to remove any duplicates before uploading so 
>>>>> as not to add to any existing towns, but I have probably missed a few.
>>>>> I have done most of southern and western NSW and am starting on 
>>>>> Northern NSW.  The specification of town size is a bit dodgy as you 
>>>>> have seen and may need some adjustment.
>>>>> I have been uploading by Local Government Area (LGA). I have not 
>>>>> touched the ,major cities yet, but I also have data for all suburbs 
>>>>> of Canberra, Sydnet and Newcastle. This will more of a problem to 
>>>>> merge. Who would like to help? I can provide the full data for a 
>>>>> given LGA in an Excel spreadsheet that automatically generated a 
>>>>> suitable .osm file for loading into JOSM, or I can just supply the 
>>>>> final .osm file.
>>>>> Let me know which LGA's you are interested in and I will send. Reply 
>>>>> to the talk-au list.
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Brent.
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>>>>> On 15/11/2007 at 8:34 AM Paul  wrote:
>>>>>> I see a some towns/villages has been loaded for NSW Australia.. good
>>>> job..
>>>>>> now I guess we need to remove duplicates...
>>>>>> ie remove either the imported marker or existing as I notice some 
>>>> places
>>>>>> are marked as
>>>>>> cities when they are small towns or villages
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>> On 4/11/2007 5:47 PM, Brent Easton wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>>> There are thousands of towns not loaded in Australia!
>>>>>>> The good news is that there is a free set of data available from the
>>>>>> Geographical Names Board that specifies every named location in
>>>> Australia
>>>>>> and specifies a Lat and Lon.
>>>>>>> The bad news is that the data is only recorded to the nearest minute
>>>>>> (from memory) which means that each name can be up to about 1.8km from
>>>> it
>>>>>> actual location, and all location with 1.8km of another end up in the
>>>> same
>>>>>> place.
>>>>>>> We can load this data up fairly easily. There is a script that was
>>>> used
>>>>>> to load the equivalent data from Ireland.
>>>>>>> The question is how useful this is, given the (in)accuracy of the
>>>> data.
>>>>>> It depends on what the Australian Community think.
>>>>>>> I can see some advantage to this (if the existing names in Australia
>>>>>> where removed before the upload) to give a rough location of towns,
>> but
>>>>>> have always been hesitant because of the innacuracy. It also includes
>>>>>> locations for all suburbs in cities, and these will just end up piled
>> on
>>>>>> top of each other .
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Brent.
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>>>>>>> On 4/11/2007 at 4:23 PM Paul  wrote:
>>>>>>>> Is there a feature to bulk load the location of 
>>>> towns/villages/cities
>>>>>>>> etc..? ie just the marker for its location (not the ways)
>>>>>>>> I found that there maybe several towns not loaded into OSM for
>>>> Australia
>>>>>>>> , so would it be easier to load these placemakers into the system in
>>>>>> Bulk?
>>>>>>>> Paul
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> Brent Easton                       
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> University of Western Sydney                                   
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