[talk-au] Australia BP service station dataset - suitable for bulk import?

Sam Couter sam at couter.id.au
Wed Dec 9 19:52:52 GMT 2009


John Smith <deltafoxtrot256 at gmail.com> wrote:
> The problem with E10 for most cars is it doesn't recognise the extra
> oxygen atom

Australian electronic fuel injection systems have O2 sensors, this isn't
a problem. The reduced energy of E10 compared to the same volume of petrol
is a problem, is basic physics, and can't be changed.

> and making food production more expensive and so the world goes on
> starving.

People don't starve for a worldwide lack of food, they starve because the
excess of food is in the wrong place, ie, not their belly. This is caused
by world politics, corruption, local warlords, complete lack of central
government in some places, etc, and the application of more food in places
that already have enough won't fix any of that.

> Of course if they pumped the waste from coal fire power plants into
> green houses that have water tanks full of algea and then turn the
> algea into fuel you gat something like 40,000-80,000L of ethernol per
> acre, it gets rid of all the emissions in a safe manner and we don't
> need to import crude oil.
> 
> But of course that would be too smart so we can't have that.

Ethanol producers have pulled a fast one on the public and hooked
government subsidies to create a very profitable and completely
unsustainable industry. They won't let that go. Your solution still isn't
carbon neutral either because you're burning coal, but that's a hell of a
lot better than burning coal *and* oil. Our only feasible truly carbon
neutral options are solar and nuclear. Solar's expensive and nuclear
scares the NIMBYs even though it releases less radioactive waste than
burning coal.
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