[talk-au] [OSM Fork] Geoscience Australia Gazetteer 2010

[Andrew Harvey]

On 21/02/12 23:34, Sam Vekemans wrote:
> This will all be added to CommonMap.org :)
> The aim is to be working directly with the staff at GeoScience
> Austrailia (those who actually make the shape files available to the
> public), and help them make it as .osm format.

I already converted them to .osm format. Yes, it would be nice if people
from Geoscience Australia were aware of what people like us are using
their data for, and engaged with the community.

> So the task is to lineup the attributes to match the .osm stnadard.
> I have already done this as part of SchemaTroll, but i need local
> austrailian volunteers to help with this task.

Yep, not too hard to convert the Feature code into the osm schema. I'll
add this to my script.

On 22/02/12 06:43, Liz wrote:
> As a person who possesses a large number of maps and previous digital
> versions, which were the paper things made into a gigantic bitmap, I
> can say that
>
> Some of the maps were made by Commonwealth Armed Forces, basically in
> WW2 era.
> After that mapping was done by each State and Territory, not from
> scratch, but from those base maps.
> For example in NSW, Department of Lands made the maps, now Land and
> Property Information.
>
> I would suggest that the WW2 copyright has been extended to 70 years
> and will be in the process of expiring. The information may have been
> released under CC-by.

In Australia maps published by the crown fall into the public domain
after 50 years.

>
> The NSW stuff has this on the website, with the rider that this doesn't
> cover spatial information
>  http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/about_lpi/copyright
> In keeping with the NSW Government's commitment to encouraging the
> availability, dissemination and exchange of information (and subject to
> the operation of the Act), you are welcome to reproduce the material
> which appears on this site for personal, in-house or non-commercial
> use, without formal permission or charge.

"non-commercial" hence not CC-BY-SA/CC-BY comparability.

There are two problems with the current data.

1. Spatial accuracy isn't great. For some reason a bunch of points are
all clumped together at the same location.

2. I would like to double check that GA releases and is able to release
the whole dataset under the CC-BY license, and that the statements
within the User Guide which say that "Copyright in the Gazetteer of
Australia resides with the relevant, State..." means that the states are
the copyright holder, but GA still has the license to release and does
in fact release the data under the CC-BY license.

I've emailed the GA about these, so I hope to hear back.

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