[talk-au] [OSM Fork] Geoscience Australia Gazetteer 2010

[Andrew Harvey]

On 22/02/12 21:46, Ian Sergeant wrote:
> On 22 February 2012 09:15, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>
>> I just wish I had looked into this more or at least this was raised when
>> I asked the list previously about the work I did extracting data from
>> government maps >50yrs old but only scanned recently.
>>
> 
> 
> It would be nice if we had a policy position on it.

Yes, maybe we should forward this to legal-talk.

I'm young and naive. An official policy from the Data Working Group
would have helped me out in a decision on whether to use those scanned
maps or not when I made those original contributions to OSM.

> I've certainly seen
> scans on Wikipedia that have been copied directly from the library sites in
> direct contravention of the policies on the web pages themselves, I guess
> under the banner of the WMF policy you state people feel free to ignore the
> legals on the page.

Yes, especially as Wikipedia claims such notices aren't enforceable anyway.

> 
> Personally, I really doubt the libraries would care at all with the
> out-of-copyright work being used for reference. However, in order to
> republish their maps, I'm sure they expect permission to be applied for.
> I'm not sure whether these sort of applications are approved as a matter of
> course, or whether a fee or other restrictions are imposed.  Maybe they
> just want attribution, who knows..

However for my case, I didn't get the scans from a library. Rather
directly from the government agency who made them.

> As to whether they have the legal right to impose such conditions, who
> knows.  It is definitely a grey area, but if it was conclusive that they
> couldn't, they I wouldn't have thought they would try.
> 
> Ian.
> 


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