[talk-au] relations

Adrian Plaskitt adrianplaskitt at hotmail.com
Wed Jul 25 22:01:46 BST 2012


Thanks, fellas, I had worried that splitting ways would cause trouble with route finding etc as one street would become 2 adjoining streets with the same name.  Regards, adrian

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> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Question about relations
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> Adrian Plaskitt wrote:
> > My specific question is, when the route passes down only part of a 
> > way, say just a few blocks of a longer street, how do you assign the 
> > relation to just a few internodes. Is it necessary to split the ways 
> > at the nodes and then just assign the relation to the segments 
> > between, or is it necessary to create a new way over the top which is 
> > just the walking route, or is there some method that is simpler that I 
> > have failed to appreciate.
> 
> I'd split the way, like this:
> 
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/141369518
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> Here the end of "Mandalay Beach Road" has been split and the part of the 
> road that belongs to the walking route has been added to the walking 
> route relation ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/400098 in 
> this case).
> 
> The result looks like this on a map designed to show long distance 
> hiking routes:
> 
> http://hiking.lonvia.de/en/?zoom=17&lat=-35.00144&lon=116.53484
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> Cheers,
> Andy
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:35:34 +1000
> From: Leon Kernan <lkernan at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Redaction recovery
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> Don't worry too much about the Hume, it's almost fixed as far as i can tell. 
> I think I fixed the last issue affecting routing between Melbourne and Sydney tonight. (hopefully)
> 
> South west sydney is full of broken roads.  
> I'm not too familiar with central Sydney but if a local could take a look, i'm not game to get too far into that mess.
> 
> If you need a change, Adelaide is also a huge mess.
> 
> On 24/07/2012, at 8:34 PM, Michael Hampson wrote:
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> > Hi Brian,
> > 
> > Good have you on board Brian. Take a look at the Hume Hwy and M5 motorway if you get a chance. Both head south west out of Sydney.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Michael 
> > On 24/07/2012 8:23 PM, Brian Prangle wrote:
> >> Hi All
> >> 
> >> I can give assistance retracing roads from bing concentrating on motorways and primary roads - I've made a start in South Sydney. Let me know if there's anywhere more urgent. I map mostly in Birmingham UK wher we're now pretty complete and are mostly tracing buildings from bing and addressing which is slow tedious work - so this provides a bit of welcome relief. It also reminds me of my visit to Oz 4 years ago - might even revisit some favourite places virtually!
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> >> Regards
> >> 
> >> Brian
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> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:16:01 +1000
> From: John Henderson <snowgum at gmx.com>
> To: Adrian Plaskitt <adrianplaskitt at hotmail.com>
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> On 25/07/12 16:07, Adrian Plaskitt wrote:
> > Greetings all. I usually confine my mapping to bush tracks and cycle
> >  paths as this is what I am most interested in and is often not
> > available from other sources. With the recent devastation of the base
> > map I am remapping some of my local area, and rapidly realising how
> > little I really understand, so forgive this basic question. I also
> > find the wiki very hard to practically understand as it assumes a
> > level of knowledge that is beyond me.
> >
> > I am interested in mapping/remapping the walking route the great
> > north walk, which is an established relation. My specific question
> > is, when the route passes down only part of a way, say just a few
> > blocks of a longer street, how do you assign the relation to just a
> > few internodes. Is it necessary to split the ways at the nodes and
> > then just assign the relation to the segments between, or is it
> > necessary to create a new way over the top which is just the walking
> > route, or is there some method that is simpler that I have failed to
> > appreciate.
> >
> > I am only able to use the potlach editor.
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> Yes, split the way as required, and add only the relevant sections to
> the relation.
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> John
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