[talk-au] Sydney Metroads Was: Re: M4 motorway in Sydney

Ben Kelley ben.kelley at gmail.com
Wed May 23 03:24:18 BST 2012


Hi.

Sounds good.

I have been re-creating some roads in my area in a similar way, although
not worrying about the route relations just yet.

    - Ben.
 On May 23, 2012 12:13 PM, "Ian Sergeant" <inas66+osm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> For those working around Sydney, and following on from my previous
> email on the subject.
>
> My strategy for reconstructing the Sydney trunk routes has been to..
>
> Firstly, delete the nonCT route relations, and create new empty route
> directional route relations. Directional route relations are much more
> useful for reconstructing then non-directional ones, because you can
> ensure their continuity in JOSM, otherwise they are just a mess.
>
> Secondly, delete the nonCT parts of the route.
>
> Thirdly, rebuild the trunk road using bing, traces, and using JOSM to
> identify the missing parts of the route relation until the route is
> complete.
>
> The theory goes that if anything disappears during the big delete that
> I hadn't anticipated, at least rebuilding the trunk roads should just
> be a matter of completing the routes again.
>
> I've also been using the references as in the AU tagging guidelines on
> the wiki, so not using MR6 as a ref - which appears nowhere on a sign,
> instead using network=MR, ref=6.  I notice a few people changing these
> refs back.  I don't personally care much which way, and we'll all be
> alphanums before too long I hope, but the wiki reasoning makes sense
> to me, so I'm following that for consistency.  I've also noticed some
> people adding roads going the wrong way to my directional relations.
> I'm thinking this is just a mistake, and I've removed them again when
> I see them.  If in the long run, people don't like the directional
> ones, then that's fine too.
>
> I was 75% through completing this a few days before the delete was
> supposed to commence.  I asked for an extension for this area to
> finish this sort of stuff, and no one who was running with this seemed
> responsive to any form of delay.  So, I frantically finished what I
> could before the db went read only, and then stopped to wait to pick
> up the pieces, and that's kinda where I've been for the past month.
>
> Ian.
>
> On 22 May 2012 23:02, Ian Sergeant <inas66 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yeah, that was me.
> >
> > I was half way through rebuilding MR4 when the db went readonly.  It was
> > supposed to be followed up with the deletion of the nonCT data, which
> would
> > have meant extensive deletions here, but that has now been delayed until
> ?
> >
> > I'll rebuild the missing sections tomorrow.
> >
> > Ian.
> >
> > On 22/05/12 22:39, Michael Hampson wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Just notice parts of the M4 motorway in Sydney is missing.
> >
> >
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.8069&lon=150.92062&zoom=16&layers=M
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
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