[talk-au] Explicit Permission to use NSW Land and Property Information data

[cleary]

My thoughts in regard to issues raised today and a couple of additional
thoughts about using NSW LPI data in OSM:

1. The requested acknowledgement, as specified by LPI, applies only to
   the information in the "Contributors" page of the wiki, not to the
   tags of each data item.  I think the source tag for each data item
   should be shorter but accurate e.g "NSW Base Map, LPI" or "NSW Points
   of Interest, LPI" etc.

2. Like one other mapper, I am also a little uncertain about including
   the date, however that is what has been requested and it is a small
   price to pay for access to such rich data. Where a whole dataset is
   imported on a particular date, it clearly makes sense but would seem
   less practical where data is extracted on an ongoing basis. Unless
   any clarification of this is received and since the stated intent of
   LPI was to indicate to users where data may be not the most recent, I
   suggest we use the earliest date on which data is taken from a
   dataset but then add an amended date if, at any time, an update of
   the entire dataset is imported into OSM. For example the current
   local government boundaries are to be extensively re-drawn in the
   next 6-9 months and it would be important to show whether any local
   government boundaries imported from LPI are the soon-to-be-obsolete
   2015 version or a subsequent version.

3. The permission, as written, does not include the "six" mapping site,
   although I note that clicking on the preview page for the NSW Base
   Map takes one to the "six" site.. Our permission is for the datasets
   on
   http://www.lpi.nsw.gov.au/mapping_and_imagery/lpi_web_services/access_lpi_web_services

The NSW Base Map is one of the datasets offered on this page and,
although it appears to be basically the same as the "six" map, I think
we should be careful to  refer to the dataset names on webpage specified
in the permission.

4. On the "Contributors" page of the wiki, I have included only the NSW
   Base Map dataset as that is the only one I am using now. However, as
   any of us starts to use data from any of the other datasets (such as
   the NSW Points of Interest dataset), we must be careful to add the
   respective dataset and specified information as a further dot point
   in the relevant part of the "Contributors" page.

5. Some information in the different datasets is contradictory. For
   example, some of the road names etc in the "NSW Points of Interest"
   database are older obsolete names (different from those shown in the
   NSW Base Map dataset) so we should recognise that even within the LPI
   datasets there may be data that we do not wish to use. This may also
   be good reason that source tags for individual data items include not
   just "LPI NSW" but indicate the particular dataset relied upon.

I am interested if anyone has other thoughts on these points.






>
>  On Sunday, 6 December 2015, 9:14, cleary <osm at 97k.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I have approached the NSW Government and have received permission for
> OpenStreetMap to use specified data from Land and Property
> Information NSW.
>
> I have added the appropriate attribution in the Contributors page of
> the wiki under New South Wales Government data and it includes a link
> ("explicit permission") to a transcription of the correspondence
> received, so that the details of the specified permission and
> requested attribution can be scrutinised.
>
> I do not have the skills to import whole datasets safely but it is my
> intention to utilise individual items of data where I can do so when
> editing OSM. I also recognise the dangers in importing data on a
> wholesale basis, for example the official NSW suburb boundaries (as
> shown in LPI data) are not the same as the ABS approximations which
> have already been included in some places and there would be scope for
> serious conflict of data if this particular LPI dataset were to be
> imported without a lot of care.
>
> Is there anything else that needs to be done in regard to appropriate
> publication of permission in the wiki?
>
> I trust other users editing the New South Wales map will be interested
> in this new (and very rich) source of data.
>
>
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