[talk-au] High country huts

forster at ozonline.com.au forster at ozonline.com.au
Sat Jul 18 00:14:02 UTC 2015


Thanks Warin for the reply.

wilderness_hut should not cause map clutter because they should only  
be tagged in wilderness areas which by definition are largely empty of  
man made features

but I accept that getting their zoom level changed may be difficult

so continue to tag as basic hut in NSW and alpine hut in Victoria?

Tony

> On 4/07/2015 6:24 PM, forster at ozonline.com.au wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I am new to editing.
>>
>> I have noticed inconsistency in what are known in Australia as   
>> Alpine or High Country or Mountain Cattlemen's huts.
>>
>> In Victoria they are tagged  tourism=alpine_hut (see Bogong High   
>> Plains, Mt Sterling and Lake Mountain)
>>
>> In the NSW they are tagged as  shelter_type=basic_hut. (see the   
>> Snowy Mountains, [except that you can't easily see them, eg Whites   
>> River Hut, Schlink Hilton, Tin Hut])
>>
>> I would consider retagging the Victorian huts to basic_hut or   
>> wilderness_hut but there is a serious safety issue involved. I am   
>> aware that I should not tag for Mapnik but downgrading the hut   
>> status would be very risky for map users.
>>
>> alpine_hut displays in Mapnik at zoom 13 but basic_hut displays at   
>> zoom 16. It is practically impossible to find a basic_hut with   
>> scroll and zoom, even if you know roughly where it is. I guess this  
>>  is why Victorian huts are tagged alpine_hut.
>>
>> These huts are the single most important feature in Australian alpine areas.
>>
>> Ideally I would like to see basic_hut or wilderness_hut displaying   
>> at zoom 13, there is heaps of empty space, at least in Australian   
>> maps round these huts, then I would like to see the Victorian huts   
>> retagged.
>>
>> Your thoughts?
>>
>
> Unfortunately rendering 'rules' are world wide ...
> Meaning if basic_hut or wilderness_hut displaying were displayed at
> zoom 13 somewhere in the world there would be too much clutter for the
> map to be usefull.
>
> Personally I'd like to see these 'rules' being made fuzzy ... so in
> places where little is shown things can be brought forward. Probably
> best implemented the other way around, removing things untill the
> number of things displayed per unit area is suitably small for reading,
> but large enough for detail.
>
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