[talk-au] Response regarding use of PSMA Administrative Boundaries (Australia)

[Warin]

By this definition opening bing imagery and 'importing' a single 
roundabout, a track, a building outline etc would each need to be 
compliant with the import guidelines.

On 7/11/2016 5:27 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote:
> From the opening paragraph:
>
> "Importing (also known as Bulk Importing) is the process of uploading 
> external data to OSM"
>
> the keyword is uploading. So as you open a shape file, kml, geojson, 
> or whatnot in your favourite editor/script it then becomes an import.
>
> On 11/07/16 16:49, cleary wrote:
>>
>> Could I have clarification please? I had previously read the Import
>> Guidelines as referring to large scale imports of whole datasets (which
>> could have wide ramifications if there were problems) but not to items
>> being added individually and incrementally as occurred with LPI NSW
>> data.  Do the import guidelines apply to all data from other sources
>> even when only individual items are being added to OSM at any one time?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016, at 03:22 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote:
>>> Just a gentle reminder that there is a list of steps that you have 
>>> to go
>>> through before you start importing data into OSM*:
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines
>>>
>>> *Yeap I realise I'm being a terrible hypocrite here. I think we managed
>>> to achieve two out of the five steps required with the NSW LPI import.
>>> Turns out that not planning an import does result in a not 
>>> insignificant
>>> level of PITA. Which is why I was hoping to avoid this in the future.
>>>
>>> On 10/7/16 16:18, Reuben wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 10/07/16 14:06, cleary wrote:
>>>>> Feedback from the legal-talk list is that the reply from the 
>>>>> Department
>>>>> of Prime Minister and Cabinet is not sufficient and therefore we 
>>>>> cannot
>>>>> use PSMA datasets in OSM.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I can ascertain, the lines on the Contributors page of the
>>>>> wiki, referring to PSMA boundaries, were added by a user named 
>>>>> Reubot a
>>>>> little over three months ago. However a search for this user 
>>>>> returned a
>>>>> result that there was no user of this name -  I'm not sure how that
>>>>> works and someone else may understand how this could be so. This user
>>>>> also added Brisbane City Council as a source in the Contributors 
>>>>> page so
>>>>> someone may wish to check if that data is actually permitted in OSM
>>>>> either.  I'm not sure how much data was actually added to OSM from 
>>>>> PSMA
>>>>> by this user or anyone else.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Sorry about that, I was under the impression that it was covered by 
>>>> the
>>>> data.gov.au permission. I only added Brisbane and Redlands and am 
>>>> now in
>>>> the process of undoing. I have sent an email to QLD Department of
>>>> Natural Resources and Mines to asking for explicit permission to use
>>>> their (boundary) datasets instead.
>>>>
>>>> The Brisbane City Council data should be good as I got explicit 
>>>> permission:
>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.brisbane.qld.gov.au_explicit_permission 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Reuben
>>>>
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