[talk-au] Response regarding use of PSMA Administrative Boundaries (Australia)

[Andrew Davidson]

Only if you have a magic machine-image plug-in that draws the roundabout 
for you ;-)

If it helps to illustrate the difference right up to this point:

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2016-January/010828.html

you could argue that the LPI import was "fully manual", but after that 
it was an import.


On 11/07/16 18:35, Warin wrote:
> By this definition opening bing imagery and 'importing' a single
> roundabout, a track, a building outline etc would each need to be
> compliant with the import guidelines.
>
> On 7/11/2016 5:27 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote:
>> From the opening paragraph:
>>
>> "Importing (also known as Bulk Importing) is the process of uploading
>> external data to OSM"
>>
>> the keyword is uploading. So as you open a shape file, kml, geojson,
>> or whatnot in your favourite editor/script it then becomes an import.
>>
>> On 11/07/16 16:49, cleary wrote:
>>>
>>> Could I have clarification please? I had previously read the Import
>>> Guidelines as referring to large scale imports of whole datasets (which
>>> could have wide ramifications if there were problems) but not to items
>>> being added individually and incrementally as occurred with LPI NSW
>>> data.  Do the import guidelines apply to all data from other sources
>>> even when only individual items are being added to OSM at any one time?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016, at 03:22 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote:
>>>> Just a gentle reminder that there is a list of steps that you have
>>>> to go
>>>> through before you start importing data into OSM*:
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines
>>>>
>>>> *Yeap I realise I'm being a terrible hypocrite here. I think we managed
>>>> to achieve two out of the five steps required with the NSW LPI import.
>>>> Turns out that not planning an import does result in a not
>>>> insignificant
>>>> level of PITA. Which is why I was hoping to avoid this in the future.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/7/16 16:18, Reuben wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/07/16 14:06, cleary wrote:
>>>>>> Feedback from the legal-talk list is that the reply from the
>>>>>> Department
>>>>>> of Prime Minister and Cabinet is not sufficient and therefore we
>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>> use PSMA datasets in OSM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as I can ascertain, the lines on the Contributors page of the
>>>>>> wiki, referring to PSMA boundaries, were added by a user named
>>>>>> Reubot a
>>>>>> little over three months ago. However a search for this user
>>>>>> returned a
>>>>>> result that there was no user of this name -  I'm not sure how that
>>>>>> works and someone else may understand how this could be so. This user
>>>>>> also added Brisbane City Council as a source in the Contributors
>>>>>> page so
>>>>>> someone may wish to check if that data is actually permitted in OSM
>>>>>> either.  I'm not sure how much data was actually added to OSM from
>>>>>> PSMA
>>>>>> by this user or anyone else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry about that, I was under the impression that it was covered by
>>>>> the
>>>>> data.gov.au permission. I only added Brisbane and Redlands and am
>>>>> now in
>>>>> the process of undoing. I have sent an email to QLD Department of
>>>>> Natural Resources and Mines to asking for explicit permission to use
>>>>> their (boundary) datasets instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Brisbane City Council data should be good as I got explicit
>>>>> permission:
>>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.brisbane.qld.gov.au_explicit_permission
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Reuben
>>>>>
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