[talk-au] How to label illegal tracks?

[Warin]

On 11-Jan-17 03:46 PM, Eon4wd wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> This is my first time so not exactly sure of protocols and procedures.
>
> I have been out mapping in my area by survey.
>
> I have particular interest in 4wd tracks and bush camping access.
>
> I have some questions that I am not sure how to handle
>
> There are a number of tracks marked in bushland. I assume most by 
> people looking at Bing.
>
> I am not sure how to reference or if there is an id system but one 
> example is at the following lat and long
>
> S37.752339
>
> E144.075093
>

Looks like way 319202537 
<https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/319202537>changeset 27746285 .. 
source Mapbox;OpenStreetMap GPS traces;Local GPX


see https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/27746285


The courteous thing to do is to contact the mapper ... you do that best 
through the above changeset.


Give it 2 weeks for a response, they may no longer be active. No 
response .. then you have to consider what to do by yourself.


> Most tracks in this area, as labelled ‘highway=track’ in OSM, are 
> formed by motor bikes and are only suitable for motorbikes.
>
> There are signs up saying that all vehicles must keep to formed roads. 
> If a motor bike was caught by police on these tracks they would be fined.
>

The argument could be that these tracks were formed before the sign went 
up?
>
> Cars can not fit on these tracks. They could be used by mountain bikes 
> or walkers but not very suitable for either as the motorbikes have 
> created the track because of the challenge ie over a disused mullock 
> heap from an abandoned mine.
>
> As I see it, these should not be listed as a track. But do I delete 
> them? Or label them as something else?
>

If they are not wide enough for a small 4WD then they are not 'track' 
width .. path could be a good tag.


The OSM wiki can be helpful from time to time. 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpath

I would have no problem with a path that allows, or is used by 
motorcycles ... fairly common in other parts of the world too (Asia, 
Africa for two).


The access tag can also be applied.


Who is responsible for the area? Should be on a sign ... possibly the 
one saying vehicles must be kept to a formed road.  I'd contact them for 
their take on these trails.

access=no bans all .. including walkers. motorcycle=no only bands 
motorcycle. motor_vehicle=no bans motor vehicles - including motorcycles.


I deleted stuff in my early days ... don't do it. I was going back and 
re adding much of it afterwards!

Much better it to change the tag..

nonexistant:*=* will result in it disappearing from the rendered maps 
... but it will still be in the data base so it can easily be recovered.


You might consider adding surface=   ?unpaved or more specific if 
consistent along the length soil? rock?

Good Luck.

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