[talk-au] Use of AIS message as input to OSM

[Arthur Geeson]

Hi Alex,

Thank you for the additional information I shall go through it all ASAP.

Arthur

On 3/1/19 6:42 pm, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir wrote:
> Having a look at the mapping guidelines I did find Beacons 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Seamarks/Beacons can have Radio 
> Stations https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Seamarks/Radio_Stations 
> including seamark:radio_station:category=ais "An AIS radiobeacon on a 
> seamark that reports its own position" and a lot of other AIS radio 
> station types including some that aren't really a buoy there - 
> virtual! 
> (http://www.professionalmariner.com/August-2014/synthetic-aids-virtual-buoys/) 
>
>
> I can find some seamarks but not radio stations in NSW 
> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/EVh 
> http://map.openseamap.org/?zoom=16&lat=-33.87089&lon=151.18538&mlat=-33.87079&mlon=151.18459&layers=BFTFFFFFFTF0FFFFFFFFFF
> But I did find a red buoy near Macau that is AIS enabled 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5793357137 
> http://map.openseamap.org/?zoom=16&lat=22.11957&lon=113.61184&layers=BFTFFFFFFTF0FFFFFFFFFF
>
> So I assume one must do some seaside mapping using some kind of radio 
> like an SDR to get the position data? 
> https://www.rtl-sdr.com/rtl-sdr-tutorial-cheap-ais-ship-tracking/
>
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 6:34 PM Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com 
> <mailto:marc.gemis at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     AFAIK, OpenSeaMap is dedicated rendering based on the same
>     OpenStreetMap database as the map of e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org
>     The OpenSeaMap project also defines certain tags that are only used
>     for navigation on water. See [1] for more info on how it works.
>
>     So on one hand they are already combined (use the same database), but
>     they are also separate (OpenSeaMap provides their own rendering of the
>     data).
>
>     regards
>
>     m.
>
>     [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenSeaMap
>
>     On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 7:17 AM Arthur Geeson <ag200spr at gmail.com
>     <mailto:ag200spr at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     > Hi,
>     >
>     > I would like to use the position data received from Automatic
>     Identification System (AIS) messages that are used for
>     navigational aids for marine ships to plot the position of these
>     piles on the OSM but I am not sure if this would be copy right
>     information?
>     >
>     > Perhaps we could have a 'source - AIS' ?
>     >
>     > Looking at the OSM wiki I find that there is a 'man_made -
>     beacon' tag.  Further searching I find there is an OpenSeaMap.  I
>     am not sure why we would need OpenStreetMap and OpenSeaMap should
>     these not be combined? However if they are separate so be it.  It
>     would seem that OpenSeaMap has a number of suitable icons but I
>     was not able to search it.  Basically AIS does not seem to be
>     supported on either of the maps.
>     >
>     > MarineTraffic.com uses the OpenStreetMap to display the
>     positions of many thousands of ships around the world based on AIS
>     input.
>     >
>     > Is anyone able to help?
>     >
>     > Thanks - Arthur
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