[talk-au] Maxweight signs question

[Ewen Hill]

Good morning  Mateusz ,
   A lot of the tertiary roads in Australia are under local government
authority ownership Mateusz. So we have a single Federal Government and
then the states and territories and finally under that local government. In
Victoria, there are 77 local government authorities (mainly shires and
councils).

  A lot of these rural shires have little money and so a lot of older signs
may be still found, especially on creek crossings on dirt roads that are
pre standardisation. Also, the state governments looks after a lot of the
forest reserves through their "conservation" department or similar. These
signs on logging roads may also differ, mainly due to the vastness of the
network.

The axle signs I haven't seen but as a cyclist I don't look too closely at
these. I do know that there is a Victorian database of road and bridge
limits however I don't know where copyright sits but would have a decent
guess that it is not available to OSM.

Thanks for all your work.

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 09:49, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 24/06/19 05:49, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
>
> How weight limit signs in Australia looks like? Especially on bridges?
>
> I found https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/signs/regulatory
> with "Bridge load limit signs" that have two examples:
> https://www.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0020/42824/r6-3.png
> https://www.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0013/42700/r6-17.png
>
> is the same set of signs used in 5 other states?
>
> Similar
> https://nt.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/378221/hvdh-section5.pdf
>
> is "per axle group" commonly used or is it an extremely rare curiosity?
>
> Most don't drive trucks so they pay no attention to them.
>
> There are maximum weights and dimensions that vehicle have to comply with.
> Major roads have bridges that withstand those maximums so they have no
> signs for that. It is only on lesser roads where a bridge cannot carry that
> maximum load that you should find these signs. I would think short bridges
> may well carry axle limits.
>
>
> is this sign using short ton or long ton or normal tonnes (=1000 kg) as an
> unit?
>
> We are a metric country now. So 1tonne = 1000kg.
>
> -----
>
> According to sources that I also encountered design like US signs, like
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MUTCD_R12-1.svg
> is at least sometimes used in Australia.
>
> Is it correct? (my sources were quite dubious so...)
>
>
> Unfortunately the road signs are under Australian Standard, AS 1743:2018.
> Australian Standards are copyright ... most will say that is ridiculous!
> But there we are. So finding examples of signs can be difficult. I can go
> and look at the AS, but I cannot copy it (I did have the capability at
> work, but had to declare it - special licence) ... I can photo signs beside
> the road ... There are some examples in learn to drive booklets, but I have
> not found any with the truck weight limits as yet.
>
> Some older signs may still be found but they will be replace with AS
> 1743:2018 signs.
> See
> https://www.mainroads.wa.gov.au/BuildingRoads/StandardsTechnical/RoadandTrafficEngineering/TrafficManagement/AustralianStandardSigns/Pages/home.aspx
> for some old examples.
>
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Warm Regards

Ewen Hill
Internet Development Australia
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