[talk-au] Maxweight signs question

[David Wales]

Hi Mateusz,

One of the NSW signs is on this page:

https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/safety-rules/road-rules/heavy-vehicles/index.html

Some other variations can be seen in these OpenStreetCam images.
Note that OpenStreetCam sometimes crops the edges of the images,
depending on the aspect ratio of your browser window. Resizing the
window, or clicking and dragging the image will allow you to see the
edges of the images:

https://openstreetcam.org/details/1348929/761/track-info
https://openstreetcam.org/details/1348929/763/track-info
https://openstreetcam.org/details/1348929/766/track-info
https://openstreetcam.org/details/1348929/779/track-info
https://openstreetcam.org/details/1359722/744/track-info
https://openstreetcam.org/details/1343611/1763/track-info

Regards,
David Wales

On 24/6/19 10:24 am, Ewen Hill wrote:
> Good morning  Mateusz ,
>    A lot of the tertiary roads in Australia are under local government
> authority ownership Mateusz. So we have a single Federal Government
> and then the states and territories and finally under that local
> government. In Victoria, there are 77 local government authorities
> (mainly shires and councils).
>  
>   A lot of these rural shires have little money and so a lot of older
> signs may be still found, especially on creek crossings on dirt roads
> that are pre standardisation. Also, the state governments looks after
> a lot of the forest reserves through their "conservation" department
> or similar. These signs on logging roads may also differ, mainly due
> to the vastness of the network.
>
> The axle signs I haven't seen but as a cyclist I don't look too
> closely at these. I do know that there is a Victorian database of road
> and bridge limits however I don't know where copyright sits but would
> have a decent guess that it is not available to OSM.
>
> Thanks for all your work. 
>
> On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 09:49, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com
> <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 24/06/19 05:49, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
>>     How weight limit signs in Australia looks like? Especially on
>>     bridges?
>>
>>     I found https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/signs/regulatory
>>     with "Bridge load limit signs" that have two examples:
>>     https://www.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0020/42824/r6-3.png
>>     https://www.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0013/42700/r6-17.png
>>
>>     is the same set of signs used in 5 other states?
>     Similar
>     https://nt.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/378221/hvdh-section5.pdf
>>     is "per axle group" commonly used or is it an extremely rare
>>     curiosity?
>     Most don't drive trucks so they pay no attention to them.
>
>     There are maximum weights and dimensions that vehicle have to
>     comply with. Major roads have bridges that withstand those
>     maximums so they have no signs for that. It is only on lesser
>     roads where a bridge cannot carry that maximum load that you
>     should find these signs. I would think short bridges may well
>     carry axle limits.
>
>
>>     is this sign using short ton or long ton or normal tonnes (=1000
>>     kg) as an unit?
>>
>     We are a metric country now. So 1tonne = 1000kg.
>>     -----
>>
>>     According to sources that I also encountered design like US
>>     signs, like
>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MUTCD_R12-1.svg
>>     is at least sometimes used in Australia.
>>
>>     Is it correct? (my sources were quite dubious so...)
>
>     Unfortunately the road signs are under Australian Standard, AS
>     1743:2018. Australian Standards are copyright ... most will say
>     that is ridiculous!
>     But there we are. So finding examples of signs can be difficult. I
>     can go and look at the AS, but I cannot copy it (I did have the
>     capability at work, but had to declare it - special licence) ... I
>     can photo signs beside the road ... There are some examples in
>     learn to drive booklets, but I have not found any with the truck
>     weight limits as yet.
>
>     Some older signs may still be found but they will be replace with
>     AS 1743:2018 signs.
>     See
>     https://www.mainroads.wa.gov.au/BuildingRoads/StandardsTechnical/RoadandTrafficEngineering/TrafficManagement/AustralianStandardSigns/Pages/home.aspx
>     for some old examples.
>
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>
> Ewen Hill
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