[talk-au] Transport for NSW (TfNSW)

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Fri Mar 15 08:47:01 UTC 2019


I wish you and us all good luck with that waver endeavour.



On 15/03/19 15:55, Runarsson, Sigurjon wrote:
>
> It is great to have joined the au list!
>
> Warin is correct in that CC by 4.0 licence does not allow data to be 
> added to OSM but as for our team we are going to be pushing for waver 
> on datasets particular related to trip planning.  That would include 
> the transit stops and gtfs data.
>
> We will of course keep you informed on any developments.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Sigurjon
>
> *From:*Warin [mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, 14 March 2019 5:56 PM
> *To:* talk-au at openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Re: [talk-au] Transport for NSW (TfNSW)
>
> On 14/03/19 16:17, cleary wrote:
>
>     As a supporter of OSM and a regular user of NSW public transport,
>     I am pleased to see this development.
>
>     I have a question in regard to use of TfNSW data in OSM. At the
>     moment the list of data sources on the Contributors page in the
>     OSM wiki does not include TfNSW data as an approved source.
>     (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#New_South_Wales_Government_data)
>     <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#New_South_Wales_Government_data>
>     If you represent the owners of the data, I presume there is no
>     copyright issue with any data you add to OSM.  I am interested in
>     using NSW Transport data for (1) sourcing bus stop numbers and (2)
>     identifying rural railway stations which continue to offer
>     services as distinct from those that are now un-used.  I am unsure
>     of the copyright restrictions on TfNSW data.  Is it possible for
>     your branch to obtain/grant approval for OSM editors to use TfNSW
>     data and have this information added to the Contributors page of
>     the wiki?
>
>
> Probably a different section. And the government may be in 'caretaker 
> mode' so things are unlikely to occur between now and the end of the 
> state election.
>
> CC by 4.0 copyright does not let OSM use it... see 
> https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/03/17/use-of-cc-by-data/
>
> If OSM obtains a specific waver then it may be possible to do a bulk 
> import of data into OSM using GTFS?
>
> The GTFS stuff is preferable as it avoids human errors (though open to 
> software errors) and can be updated very rapidly.
>
> Anyway - welcome to the Au talking list 'hand of God'.
>
>
> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019, at 8:55 AM, Runarsson, Sigurjon wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     My name is Sigurjon and I work for the Transport for NSW (TfNSW)
>     Data Services team which is a small but dedicated group which
>     underpin the many digital products and projects that form part of
>     TfNSW as a whole. The team are responsible for sourcing, managing
>     and providing data with an emphasis on quality and efficiency.
>
>     The TfNSW Data Services team aim to contribute and help improve
>     OpenStreetMap, which we started to use in our products like the
>     TfNSW Trip Planner (https://transportnsw.info/trip#/) from the end
>     of 2018, through review and updates that are identified as part of
>     their wide reaching day-to-day activities, feedback from their
>     extensive network of customer/public facing channels, and other
>     TfNSW internal stakeholders.
>
>     You can find further information on our wiki
>     pagehttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TfNSW
>
>     Please don’t hesitate to contact me
>     onSigurjon.Runarsson at transport.nsw.gov.au
>     <mailto:Sigurjon.Runarsson at transport.nsw.gov.au>,https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Maradona11or
>     use our group mailbox and another member of the team will
>     endeavour to help you:timetable at transport.nsw.gov.au
>     <mailto:timetable at transport.nsw.gov.au>
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Sigurjon
>

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