[talk-au] Rock Overhangs

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 at 18:14, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Rock overhangs (rock shelters) have been quite extensively mistagged in
> Australia as natural=cave_entrance.
>
> Are there any objections to re-tagging these overhangs tagged as
> natural=cave_entrance to amenity=shelter + shelter_type=rock_shelter?
>

No real objection, Andrew, but when (how deep) does a rock overhang /
shelter become an actual cave? :-)

Also noticed in the discussion comments on

> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shelter_type
>

"Can you look if this could be tagged as a shelter ?
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Champlitte,_%C3%A9craigne.jpg Tounoki
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User:Tounoki&action=edit&redlink=1>
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<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tounoki&action=edit&redlink=1>)
14:16, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
If it is open to the public, not meant for sleeping, no cooking or heating
equipement inside, then yes, you could use amenity
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:amenity>=shelter
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dshelter> +shelter
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shelter>=weather_shelter
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:shelter%3Dweather_shelter&action=edit&redlink=1>
"
Is "not meant for sleeping, no cooking or heating equipement inside"
supposed to be a criteria for a shelter?

Some of the overhangs I've seen are pitch black underneath from many
thousands of years of cooking fires, & are acknowledged as places that
Aboriginal peoples camped during bad weather - does that mean they're not
shelters? (although I don't know what else they would then be?)

Thanks

Graeme
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