[talk-au] Uluru naming consistency

[Adam Horan]

I prefer the first proposal from Joachim:
name = Uluṟu
name:en = Uluru
name:pjt = Uluṟu
alt_name = Ayers Rock
alt_name:en = Ayers Rock
official_name =  Uluru / Ayers Rock
official_name:en =  Uluru / Ayers Rock

I suggest putting 'Ayers Rock' in alt_name instead of old_name. If you
think about it Uluru *is* the old name... 😊


Adam

On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 09:55, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for consulting the list for feedback before making the change, such
> a big change like this should be discussed first.
>
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 05:40, Joachim <noreply at freedom-x.de> wrote:
>
>> For the following proposals I added the English and Pitjantjatjara
>> explicitly because Uluru has some translated names.
>> My preferred proposal for both features:
>> name = Uluṟu
>> name:en = Uluru
>> name:pjt = Uluṟu
>> alt_name = Ayers Rock
>> alt_name:en = Ayers Rock
>> official_name =  Uluru / Ayers Rock
>> official_name:en =  Uluru / Ayers Rock
>>
>
> +1
>
> I'm also okay with either alt_name or old_name for "Ayers Rock", with a
> slight preference to "old_name".
>
>
>> Uluru seems to be generally seen as the preferred name nowadays in
>> Australia. I played a bit with Google Trends to see the extent
>> (
>> https://trends.google.de/trends/explore?date=all&geo=AU&q=ayers%20rock,uluru
>> )
>> The official name is the dual name Uluru / Ayers Rock
>> (http://www.ntlis.nt.gov.au/placenames/view.jsp?id=10532)
>> The park is co-operated by Anangu and the Australian Government and
>> names it Uluru exclusively
>> (https://parksaustralia.gov.au/uluru/about/ayers-rock-or-uluru/)
>>
>
> I agree.
>
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 09:14, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> So, with such a mish-mash of underlined & non- names, my own preference
>> would be:
>>
>> name = Uluru / Ayers Rock
>> name:en = Uluru / Ayers Rock
>> name:pjt = Uluṟu
>> old_name = Ayers Rock
>> old_name:en = Ayers Rock
>>
>> if we need to specify name:en, if not, simply
>>
>> name = Uluru / Ayers Rock
>> name:pjt = Uluṟu
>> old_name = Ayers Rock
>>
>
> I'd prefer Joachim's proposal, I relegating Ayers Rock to as part of the
> official_name and either the old_name or alt_name. I believe most of the
> signage within the park uses the exclusive term "Uluru".
>
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