[talk-au] Uluru naming consistency

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Mon Oct 28 23:42:30 UTC 2019


On 29/10/19 09:53, Andrew Harvey wrote:
> Thanks for consulting the list for feedback before making the change, 
> such a big change like this should be discussed first.
>
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 05:40, Joachim <noreply at freedom-x.de 
> <mailto:noreply at freedom-x.de>> wrote:
>
>     For the following proposals I added the English and Pitjantjatjara
>     explicitly because Uluru has some translated names.
>     My preferred proposal for both features:
>     name = Uluṟu
>     name:en = Uluru
>     name:pjt = Uluṟu
>     alt_name = Ayers Rock
>     alt_name:en = Ayers Rock
>     official_name =  Uluru / Ayers Rock
>     official_name:en =  Uluru / Ayers Rock
>
>
> +1
+1
>
> I'm also okay with either alt_name or old_name for "Ayers Rock", with 
> a slight preference to "old_name".

Some would argue that the true old name is Uluru. :)
I think alt_name is probably the better choice.

>     Uluru seems to be generally seen as the preferred name nowadays in
>     Australia. I played a bit with Google Trends to see the extent
>     (https://trends.google.de/trends/explore?date=all&geo=AU&q=ayers%20rock,uluru)
>     The official name is the dual name Uluru / Ayers Rock
>     (http://www.ntlis.nt.gov.au/placenames/view.jsp?id=10532)
>     The park is co-operated by Anangu and the Australian Government and
>     names it Uluru exclusively
>     (https://parksaustralia.gov.au/uluru/about/ayers-rock-or-uluru/)
>
>
> I agree.
Older ozies are more used to Ayers Rock... I still use it as I don't 
remember how to spell Uluru always and that is what I am used to.

>
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 09:14, Graeme Fitzpatrick 
> <graemefitz1 at gmail.com <mailto:graemefitz1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     So, with such a mish-mash of underlined & non- names, my own
>     preference would be:
>
>     name = Uluru / Ayers Rock
>     name:en = Uluru / Ayers Rock
>     name:pjt = Uluṟu
>     old_name = Ayers Rock
>     old_name:en = Ayers Rock
>
>     if we need to specify name:en, if not, simply
>
>     name = Uluru / Ayers Rock
>     name:pjt = Uluṟu
>     old_name = Ayers Rock
>
>
> I'd prefer Joachim's proposal, I relegating Ayers Rock to as part of 
> the official_name and either the old_name or alt_name. I believe most 
> of the signage within the park uses the exclusive term "Uluru".
>
>
>
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