[talk-au] Uluru naming consistency
Warin
61sundowner at gmail.com
Mon Oct 28 23:42:30 UTC 2019
On 29/10/19 09:53, Andrew Harvey wrote:
> Thanks for consulting the list for feedback before making the change,
> such a big change like this should be discussed first.
>
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 05:40, Joachim <noreply at freedom-x.de
> <mailto:noreply at freedom-x.de>> wrote:
>
> For the following proposals I added the English and Pitjantjatjara
> explicitly because Uluru has some translated names.
> My preferred proposal for both features:
> name = Uluṟu
> name:en = Uluru
> name:pjt = Uluṟu
> alt_name = Ayers Rock
> alt_name:en = Ayers Rock
> official_name = Uluru / Ayers Rock
> official_name:en = Uluru / Ayers Rock
>
>
> +1
+1
>
> I'm also okay with either alt_name or old_name for "Ayers Rock", with
> a slight preference to "old_name".
Some would argue that the true old name is Uluru. :)
I think alt_name is probably the better choice.
> Uluru seems to be generally seen as the preferred name nowadays in
> Australia. I played a bit with Google Trends to see the extent
> (https://trends.google.de/trends/explore?date=all&geo=AU&q=ayers%20rock,uluru)
> The official name is the dual name Uluru / Ayers Rock
> (http://www.ntlis.nt.gov.au/placenames/view.jsp?id=10532)
> The park is co-operated by Anangu and the Australian Government and
> names it Uluru exclusively
> (https://parksaustralia.gov.au/uluru/about/ayers-rock-or-uluru/)
>
>
> I agree.
Older ozies are more used to Ayers Rock... I still use it as I don't
remember how to spell Uluru always and that is what I am used to.
>
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 09:14, Graeme Fitzpatrick
> <graemefitz1 at gmail.com <mailto:graemefitz1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> So, with such a mish-mash of underlined & non- names, my own
> preference would be:
>
> name = Uluru / Ayers Rock
> name:en = Uluru / Ayers Rock
> name:pjt = Uluṟu
> old_name = Ayers Rock
> old_name:en = Ayers Rock
>
> if we need to specify name:en, if not, simply
>
> name = Uluru / Ayers Rock
> name:pjt = Uluṟu
> old_name = Ayers Rock
>
>
> I'd prefer Joachim's proposal, I relegating Ayers Rock to as part of
> the official_name and either the old_name or alt_name. I believe most
> of the signage within the park uses the exclusive term "Uluru".
>
>
>
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