[talk-au] Use of online data without CC BY?

Graeme Fitzpatrick graemefitz1 at gmail.com
Fri Apr 2 23:54:22 UTC 2021


Thanks Simon.

I asked:
"I was wondering if we could get your permission to make use of these
various maps and POI details to further upgrade the details shown on OSM?

I can see, by looking at the Council pages online, that they are all
Copyright BRC, but can’t see anything to say if they have been licensed for
public use under a Creative Commons licence?

Could you please let me know whether you may be amenable to this idea, so
we can discuss any further requirements?"
& their response was:

"Council is happy for you to use the online maps and POI details for Alpha,
Jericho, Barcaldine, Aramac and Muttaburra.



Please let me know what further information you require and I would be
happy to assist."

So I think we'd be OK?

Thanks

Graeme


On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 at 18:05, Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch> wrote:

> In general explicit permission should be OK, if the source is clear on
> which terms we will be distributing the data, best to reference the
> contributor terms in such agreements.
>
> @stevea it is complicated, in particular AUS adheres to, just like the UK,
> a sweat of the brow doctrine so you need to, as a 1st approximation, assume
> that copyright applies.
> Am 02.04.2021 um 05:16 schrieb Graeme Fitzpatrick:
>
> Bit of an interesting question, that I'll start here, but which I can see
> going to the Legal Group for a ruling?
>
> Started updating hospital details after getting the OK & waiver through
> from Qld Health to use their data.
>
> First one on the list was Alpha, which, co-incidentally has just had a
> brand new combined Health / Emergency Services facility built!
>
> While checking info about it, I spotted the Barcaldine Council page for
> Alpha, which has https://www.barcaldinerc.qld.gov.au/tourism/towns/alpha
> & https://www.barcaldinerc.qld.gov.au/alpha-3, which show details & gives
> info on POIs that we could include.
>
> Contacted the Council to ask about using that info, & they have given
> explicit permission for us to use this info for Alpha & 4 other towns in
> their area.
>
> That's great, but it appears that they don't publish anything under a CC
> BY licence at all - the only reference I can see just says "© Barcaldine
> Regional Council"?
>
> So, can we use it, or do we have to still have a waiver of some sort?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
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