[talk-au] Data challenges in Maproulette for AU territories

Adam Horan ahoran at gmail.com
Mon Aug 2 20:57:02 UTC 2021


Can the existing MalformedRoundaboutChecks be disabled/hidden until they
are corrected?

They're currently still visible and show the incorrect identifications.

Thanks,

Adam

On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 at 05:25, Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc) via
Talk-au <talk-au at openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As called out my original post, we have now published the Atlas check
> Maproulette challenges for territories of NSW, WA, SA, and NT. These are
> posted through our github here,
> https://github.com/microsoft/Open-Maps/issues/69.
>
> Andrew Davidson pointed out the incorrect direction being identified in
> relation to MalformedRoundaboutCheck. Having passed on this feedback, it
> appears that the check takes into consideration the different sides of the
> road travelled in  countries. This is based off of a list of ISO country
> codes and a tag for iso_country_code, but as these challenges were created
> on a territory by territory basis, this was an oversight and will be
> updated. Thanks again for the feedback on that.
>
> Thanks Andrew Harvey for the update on the VIC address import project, it
> will be interesting to re-run the atlas check after this is complete and
> see what the results are.
>
> Thanks all,
> Oisin
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>    1. Re: Data challenges in Maproulette for AU territories
>       (Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc))
>    2. Re: Celebrating 17 years of OSM (Edoardo Neerhut)
>    3. Re: Roads in Industrial Estates: Residential, Unclassified or
>       Service? (Graeme Fitzpatrick)
>    4. Re: Roads in Industrial Estates: Residential, Unclassified or
>       Service? (Adam Horan)
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> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 17:23:21 +0000
> From: "Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc)" <v-oiher at microsoft.com>
> To: "talk-au at openstreetmap.org" <talk-au at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Data challenges in Maproulette for AU
>         territories
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> Hi Andrew,
>
> As per your message below -
> " I think there may be a problem with your MalformedRoundaboutCheck
> challenges. It appears that every roundabout in the ACT and VIC has been
> flagged. I've checked about 15 so far and none of them have any issues.
>
> Could you have forgotten that roundabouts are clockwise in AU?"
>
> Thank you for pointing this out. I took a look and agree, so have fed this
> information back to some of the folks who worked on these tasks. The
> country's direction o f travel should be considered when looking into the
> details of the check on github here,
> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fosmlab%2Fatlas-checks%2Fblob%2Fdev%2Fdocs%2Fchecks%2FmalformedRoundaboutCheck.md&data=04%7C01%7Cv-oiher%40microsoft.com%7C5a14f9d64ab04e3ee30908d950cc7ddd%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637629661641271485%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=BjxwawMPwjJctwBEulm%2FAhDCUD6qWob%2F%2F3SZ27wK8X4%3D&reserved=0.
> I can update when I find out more and will also check in other territories
> before sending any out on Maproulette until we find out whats happening  on
> this check.
>
> Best,
> Oisin
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> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 12:58:41 +1000
> From: Andrew Davidson <theswavu at gmail.com>
> To: "Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc)" <v-oiher at microsoft.com>,
>         "talk-au at openstreetmap.org" <talk-au at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Data challenges in Maproulette for AU
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> On 21/7/21 5:14 am, Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc) via Talk-au wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The Microsoft Open Maps team has created and posted some MapRoulette?
> > challenges in ACT, TAS, and VIC territories (MapRoulette
> > <
> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmaproulette.org%2Fbrowse%2Fprojects%2F45510&data=04%7C01%7Cv-oiher%40microsoft.com%7C5a14f9d64ab04e3ee30908d950cc7ddd%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637629661641271485%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ClOCKJrsWgJlQSDepeNq%2F9Pm544apryr7tWx5YcyqkY%3D&reserved=0
> >).
> >
>
> I think there may be a problem with your MalformedRoundaboutCheck
> challenges. It appears that every roundabout in the ACT and VIC has been
> flagged. I've checked about 15 so far and none of them have any issues.
>
> Could you have forgotten that roundabouts are clockwise in AU?
>
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> From: Edoardo Neerhut <eneerhut at gmail.com>
> To: Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
> Cc: OSM Australian Talk List <talk-au at openstreetmap.org>,
>         talk-pacific <talk-pacific at openstreetmap.org>, talk-nz
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> *An update.*
>
> It looks like the targeted date is now Sunday, August 8th with a time of
> 03:00 UTC for Oceania (11am Perth, 1pm AEST, 3pm NZ/Fiji, 5pm Tahiti).
> A wiki has been started here
> <
> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.openstreetmap.org%2Fwiki%2FFoundation%2FLocal_Chapters%2FOSM_17-hour_Global_Mapathon&data=04%7C01%7Cv-oiher%40microsoft.com%7C5a14f9d64ab04e3ee30908d950cc7ddd%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637629661641271485%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=433qkEWy9EWU%2FHCNF5b0l%2Bmd3DZ97qwDF2OGn1tRiqw%3D&reserved=0
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> .
>
> I don't think I'll be available that weekend, but is anyone willing to
> coordinate the Oceania hour? Should be pretty light weight with map task
> selection and coordination the main work required.
>
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 at 15:50, Edoardo Neerhut <eneerhut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Glad to hear there is some interest to participate.
> > I'll check with Maggie from OSM US to see whether August 9th is the
> > proposed date for the mapathon.
> >
> > She proposed Big Blue Button
> > <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwik
> > i.openstreetmap.org%2Fwiki%2FBigBlueButton&data=04%7C01%7Cv-oiher%
> > 40microsoft.com%7C5a14f9d64ab04e3ee30908d950cc7ddd%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637629661641271485%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=a4RGgj142Lx9Q%2FZIa6b7qeYUrDH%2B7FjcaKonVKtLjQQ%3D&reserved=0>
> as the digital platform to facilitate the mapathon. I thought it worked
> well for State of the Map this year.
> >
> > @Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com> 00:00 UTC is 12pm and 1pm
> > in Kiribati and American Samoa respectively, so I don't imagine it
> > being too much of an issue for participation there. Perth is more
> > difficult as it is 8am for them.
> >
> > On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 at 15:34, Graeme Fitzpatrick
> > <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 at 02:32, Edoardo Neerhut <eneerhut at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Sounds OK.
> >>
> >>  Given that we come from the future, Oceania was proposed as the time
> >>> zone that would kick the event off at 00:00 GMT.
> >>>
> >>
> >> That could be a bit tricky, seeing that we have Kiribati at GMT +14 &
> >> American Samoa at -11!
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Graeme
> >>
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> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 16:47:01 +1000
> From: Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
> To: Adam Horan <ahoran at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Roads in Industrial Estates: Residential,
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> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 at 18:45, Adam Horan <ahoran at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've created them in MapRoulette - quite good fun really :)
> >
> > (Adding each state now.)
> >
>
> Yep, they're there & they work fine!
>
> Now, could you please share the secret of how you did it? :-)
>
> I'm trying to set one up myself, but I'll be jiggered if I can get it to
> work.
>
> What did you use as the "Location of your Task Data"?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
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> From: Adam Horan <ahoran at gmail.com>
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> lol, I was not expecting to be the maproulette expert after 2 days of
> playing with it :) I'd assumed I was talking to a guru!
>
> This is the project
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> In this project I have used overpass queries, like this one.
>
> //State
> area[admin_level=4]["name"="South
> Australia"][boundary=administrative]->.boundaryarea;
>
> way(area.boundaryarea)[landuse=industrial];
> map_to_area -> .industrial_areas;
>
> //residential roads in this area
> way(area.industrial_areas)[highway=residential];
>
> out geom ;
>
>
> I worked out this query based on googling for examples of things in other
> areas, and found one about regions of Germany with or without fire
> stations. I then simplified and modified it to what I needed. Testing in
>
> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Foverpass-turbo.eu%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cv-oiher%40microsoft.com%7C5a14f9d64ab04e3ee30908d950cc7ddd%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637629661641271485%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=H9Fi9ggsqP91QzpdeAV62ocu21CEvMxuVvtiXihx9fY%3D&reserved=0
> until it returned sensible looking results.
> Fortunately the queries are relatively quick and efficient.
>
> I created a second project covering another bugbear of mine - reservoirs
> in Australia mapped as a 'dam'....
>
> https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmaproulette.org%2Fbrowse%2Fprojects%2F46022&data=04%7C01%7Cv-oiher%40microsoft.com%7C5a14f9d64ab04e3ee30908d950cc7ddd%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637629661641281479%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=9qQ19GYpkQwdvQkosm30nNWh18xATWRsVDTAyzxVXL4%3D&reserved=0
> The overpass queries in this run too long, and so a couple of them are
> based on geojson data sets exported from overpass turbo. I've hit quota
> blocks so many times in the last few days trying to get these queries
> working at all and then semi-efficiently.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 at 16:47, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 at 18:45, Adam Horan <ahoran at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I've created them in MapRoulette - quite good fun really :)
> >>
> >> (Adding each state now.)
> >>
> >
> > Yep, they're there & they work fine!
> >
> > Now, could you please share the secret of how you did it? :-)
> >
> > I'm trying to set one up myself, but I'll be jiggered if I can get it
> > to work.
> >
> > What did you use as the "Location of your Task Data"?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Graeme
> >
> >
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