[talk-au] Data challenges in Maproulette for AU territories
Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc)
v-oiher at microsoft.com
Mon Aug 2 19:19:31 UTC 2021
Hi all,
As called out my original post, we have now published the Atlas check Maproulette challenges for territories of NSW, WA, SA, and NT. These are posted through our github here, https://github.com/microsoft/Open-Maps/issues/69.
Andrew Davidson pointed out the incorrect direction being identified in relation to MalformedRoundaboutCheck. Having passed on this feedback, it appears that the check takes into consideration the different sides of the road travelled in countries. This is based off of a list of ISO country codes and a tag for iso_country_code, but as these challenges were created on a territory by territory basis, this was an oversight and will be updated. Thanks again for the feedback on that.
Thanks Andrew Harvey for the update on the VIC address import project, it will be interesting to re-run the atlas check after this is complete and see what the results are.
Thanks all,
Oisin
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1. Re: Data challenges in Maproulette for AU territories
(Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc))
2. Re: Celebrating 17 years of OSM (Edoardo Neerhut)
3. Re: Roads in Industrial Estates: Residential, Unclassified or
Service? (Graeme Fitzpatrick)
4. Re: Roads in Industrial Estates: Residential, Unclassified or
Service? (Adam Horan)
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Hi Andrew,
As per your message below -
" I think there may be a problem with your MalformedRoundaboutCheck challenges. It appears that every roundabout in the ACT and VIC has been flagged. I've checked about 15 so far and none of them have any issues.
Could you have forgotten that roundabouts are clockwise in AU?"
Thank you for pointing this out. I took a look and agree, so have fed this information back to some of the folks who worked on these tasks. The country's direction o f travel should be considered when looking into the details of the check on github here, https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fosmlab%2Fatlas-checks%2Fblob%2Fdev%2Fdocs%2Fchecks%2FmalformedRoundaboutCheck.md&data=04%7C01%7Cv-oiher%40microsoft.com%7C5a14f9d64ab04e3ee30908d950cc7ddd%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637629661641271485%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=BjxwawMPwjJctwBEulm%2FAhDCUD6qWob%2F%2F3SZ27wK8X4%3D&reserved=0. I can update when I find out more and will also check in other territories before sending any out on Maproulette until we find out whats happening on this check.
Best,
Oisin
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Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 12:58:41 +1000
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On 21/7/21 5:14 am, Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc) via Talk-au wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The Microsoft Open Maps team has created and posted some MapRoulette?
> challenges in ACT, TAS, and VIC territories (MapRoulette
> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmaproulette.org%2Fbrowse%2Fprojects%2F45510&data=04%7C01%7Cv-oiher%40microsoft.com%7C5a14f9d64ab04e3ee30908d950cc7ddd%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637629661641271485%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ClOCKJrsWgJlQSDepeNq%2F9Pm544apryr7tWx5YcyqkY%3D&reserved=0>).
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I think there may be a problem with your MalformedRoundaboutCheck challenges. It appears that every roundabout in the ACT and VIC has been flagged. I've checked about 15 so far and none of them have any issues.
Could you have forgotten that roundabouts are clockwise in AU?
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*An update.*
It looks like the targeted date is now Sunday, August 8th with a time of
03:00 UTC for Oceania (11am Perth, 1pm AEST, 3pm NZ/Fiji, 5pm Tahiti).
A wiki has been started here
<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.openstreetmap.org%2Fwiki%2FFoundation%2FLocal_Chapters%2FOSM_17-hour_Global_Mapathon&data=04%7C01%7Cv-oiher%40microsoft.com%7C5a14f9d64ab04e3ee30908d950cc7ddd%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637629661641271485%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=433qkEWy9EWU%2FHCNF5b0l%2Bmd3DZ97qwDF2OGn1tRiqw%3D&reserved=0>
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I don't think I'll be available that weekend, but is anyone willing to coordinate the Oceania hour? Should be pretty light weight with map task selection and coordination the main work required.
On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 at 15:50, Edoardo Neerhut <eneerhut at gmail.com> wrote:
> Glad to hear there is some interest to participate.
> I'll check with Maggie from OSM US to see whether August 9th is the
> proposed date for the mapathon.
>
> She proposed Big Blue Button
> <https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwik
> i.openstreetmap.org%2Fwiki%2FBigBlueButton&data=04%7C01%7Cv-oiher%
> 40microsoft.com%7C5a14f9d64ab04e3ee30908d950cc7ddd%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637629661641271485%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=a4RGgj142Lx9Q%2FZIa6b7qeYUrDH%2B7FjcaKonVKtLjQQ%3D&reserved=0> as the digital platform to facilitate the mapathon. I thought it worked well for State of the Map this year.
>
> @Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com> 00:00 UTC is 12pm and 1pm
> in Kiribati and American Samoa respectively, so I don't imagine it
> being too much of an issue for participation there. Perth is more
> difficult as it is 8am for them.
>
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 at 15:34, Graeme Fitzpatrick
> <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 at 02:32, Edoardo Neerhut <eneerhut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sounds OK.
>>
>> Given that we come from the future, Oceania was proposed as the time
>>> zone that would kick the event off at 00:00 GMT.
>>>
>>
>> That could be a bit tricky, seeing that we have Kiribati at GMT +14 &
>> American Samoa at -11!
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Graeme
>>
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 at 18:45, Adam Horan <ahoran at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've created them in MapRoulette - quite good fun really :)
>
> (Adding each state now.)
>
Yep, they're there & they work fine!
Now, could you please share the secret of how you did it? :-)
I'm trying to set one up myself, but I'll be jiggered if I can get it to work.
What did you use as the "Location of your Task Data"?
Thanks
Graeme
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lol, I was not expecting to be the maproulette expert after 2 days of playing with it :) I'd assumed I was talking to a guru!
This is the project https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmaproulette.org%2Fbrowse%2Fprojects%2F46014&data=04%7C01%7Cv-oiher%40microsoft.com%7C5a14f9d64ab04e3ee30908d950cc7ddd%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637629661641271485%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=EWwQ4%2FfDhgz6JSRokbzqXjYE4kkwR8x%2FOgN6sYKRIqA%3D&reserved=0
In this project I have used overpass queries, like this one.
//State
area[admin_level=4]["name"="South
Australia"][boundary=administrative]->.boundaryarea;
way(area.boundaryarea)[landuse=industrial];
map_to_area -> .industrial_areas;
//residential roads in this area
way(area.industrial_areas)[highway=residential];
out geom ;
I worked out this query based on googling for examples of things in other areas, and found one about regions of Germany with or without fire stations. I then simplified and modified it to what I needed. Testing in
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Fortunately the queries are relatively quick and efficient.
I created a second project covering another bugbear of mine - reservoirs in Australia mapped as a 'dam'....
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The overpass queries in this run too long, and so a couple of them are based on geojson data sets exported from overpass turbo. I've hit quota blocks so many times in the last few days trying to get these queries working at all and then semi-efficiently.
Adam
On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 at 16:47, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 at 18:45, Adam Horan <ahoran at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've created them in MapRoulette - quite good fun really :)
>>
>> (Adding each state now.)
>>
>
> Yep, they're there & they work fine!
>
> Now, could you please share the secret of how you did it? :-)
>
> I'm trying to set one up myself, but I'll be jiggered if I can get it
> to work.
>
> What did you use as the "Location of your Task Data"?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
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