[talk-au] Speed cameras and Safe-T-Cams: revised guideline suggestion

[Brendan Barnes]

Hi Ian, thanks for summarising the mailing list discussion. Much
appreciated.

Can I tweak your Australian tagging guideline to the following:

New sub-heading: Speed cameras
Fixed speed cameras (including those that measure speed at a specific point
and those that measure average vehicle speed between two points) can be
tagged in one of two ways: (1) by using the tag highway=speed_camera, with
or without additional tags (such as maxspeed=*) as described here [
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dspeed_camera], and/or (2)
by using the tag relation:enforcement with additional tags, as described
here [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:enforcement].
New sub-heading: Heavy vehicle compliance cameras
Fixed cameras which monitor heavy vehicle driver fatigue and other heavy
vehicle enforcement can be mapped using (1)
highway:hgv=fatigue_management_camera or (2)
enforcement:hgv=fatigue_management_camera, or perhaps both. These are often
known as "Safe-T-Cams" in [
https://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/safety-rules/speeding-camera-enforcement/index.html|NSW]
and [
https://www.sa.gov.au/topics/driving-and-transport/heavy-vehicles/driving-heavy-vehicles-safely|SA].
There are other sites as part of the [
https://www.nhvr.gov.au/safety-accreditation-compliance/national-compliance-information-system|National
Safety Camera Network] in Vic, Qld, and the ACT, which is operated by the
federal National Heavy Vehicle Regulator, compared to the state-operated
cameras of NSW and SA.

Where an installation includes both a speed camera which applies to all
vehicle types, and a heavy vehicle compliance camera (if such camera
exists), both sets of tags can be used on the same node.


On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 at 17:12, Little Maps <mapslittle at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi folks, there was a useful discussion the other week about updating the
> Australian tagging guideline on Safe-T-Cams. I've tried to integrate all
> the points that were raised in the following text. I guess the broad
> intention is to better differentiate between speed cameras and Safe-T-Cam
> cameras in the guidelines. Thanks for a great discussion. All comments
> welcome. Cheers Ian
>
> Existing text:  highway=safe_t_cam   Use this tag to mark the position of
> the NSW and SA Safe - T - Cam system
>
> Suggested replacement (If approved, I suggest this be moved out of the
> regional roads section and given it's own sub-heading given its relevance
> to both urban and regional roads)
>
> New sub-heading: Speed cameras and "Safe-T-Cam" cameras
>
> Fixed speed cameras (including those that measure speed at a specific
> point and those that measure average vehicle speed between two points) can
> be tagged in one of two ways: (1) by using the tag highway=speed_camera,
> with or without additional tags (such as maxspeed=*) as described here [
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dspeed_camera], and/or
> (2) by using the tag relation:enforcement with additional tags, as
> described here [https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:enforcement].
>
> "Safe_T-Cam" cameras in New South Wales and South Australia monitor the
> movement of heavy vehicles but do not monitor vehicle speed [
> https://www.nhvr.gov.au/safety-accreditation-compliance/on-road-compliance-and-enforcement/safe-t-cam].
> They can be mapped using (1) highway:hgv=fatigue_management_camera or (2)
> enforcement:hgv=fatigue_management_camera, or perhaps both. Where an
> installation includes both a speed camera and a Safe-T-Cam (if such a thing
> exists), both sets of tags can be used.
>
> Hope I haven't missed anything!
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