[talk-au] Funding for OpenStreetMap initiatives

Edoardo Neerhut eneerhut at gmail.com
Tue Jul 13 04:35:32 UTC 2021

Hi all,

Thrilled at the enthusiastic response to this and the range of suggestions.
A bit of homework for us at the OSM Special Interest Group (OSM SIG) is to
get a proper application form together shaped by your suggestions.
I'll discuss this with OSGeo Oceania's SIG which all are welcome to join.
Andrew Harvey is currently co-chair, but we're looking for another co-chair
for him.

To address some of the points raised:

   - @Violaine <violaine at posteo.net> excellent idea. Definitely in scope.
   - @forster at ozonline.com.au <forster at ozonline.com.au> I love the idea of
   the signs giving the story behind the tree planting more permanence. If
   Parks Vic approves, I would imagine the OSM SIG would approve such use of
   funds. Let us know if something concrete comes up around
   venue hire/internet. This is also within scope and we could discuss ASAP to
   get you what you need.
   - @Mateusz Good question and one we have not discussed in detail. My own
   opinion is that there should be some Oceania connection, as that is the
   mandate of our organisation. This could be a tool developed directly in
   Oceania that has global reach, or a tool developed globally that has clear
   benefit to end users in Oceania.
   - @brenbarnes at gmail.com <brenbarnes at gmail.com> every one of these is
   worthy. For many of these we need someone to volunteer to maintain the
   program. A camera grant program for Oceania would be wonderful, but we need
   some volunteers to help put it together. Here is an example from the UK
   <https://osmuk.org/community-projects/camera-rental/>. Warin raises a
   good point though. I actually ran a camera grant program for a day job
   (Mapillary) and the lesson learned over time is that to be successful the
   cameras really need to be a permanent grant rather than a loan. It becomes
   too expensive and time consuming to ship cameras across the world, or even
   Oceania. The dynamics could be different for a rental program, but then
   someone needs to be willing to manage it.
   - I like the UK's high-vis vests
   <https://osmuk.org/community-projects/surveyor-hi-vis-jackets/> idea, but
   I don't think I'd wear one myself. The iD of some sort along with flyers is
   a good idea though. If OSGeo Oceania was willing to place an initial order
   of 50 or so, do you think you'd be able to help design them @graeme?

I'm very keen to see how many of these brilliant ideas can be turned into
concrete actions. To be perfectly honest, the main barrier here is having
someone willing to put in the time to drive each initiative. Money is less
of a concern and the whole point of OSGeo Oceania and our OSM group is to
support initiatives like this.

The OSM SIG will follow up with a concrete platform to submit ideas, but
feel free to keep them coming here in the meantime.

Happy mapping,


On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 21:08, Sam Wilson <sam at samwilson.id.au> wrote:

> I've also had conversations like that, and have rarely managed to convince
> people that I'm not peculiar. I remember one bloke found it more believable
> that I was collecting photos of power poles than that I was contributing to
> a map!
> OSM UK has high-viz surveyor vests
> <https://osmuk.org/community-projects/surveyor-hi-vis-jackets/>, or
> rather instructions for how to get a work-wear company to make such a thing
> on order. I wonder if we could do something similar here?
> But yeah, I agree that a 'official' OSM Oceania leaflet or lanyard or
> something would be great. I mean, I realise I could just print such a
> thing, but there's something better about it having some sort of community
> standing.
> —Sam.
> On 13/7/21 11:33 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Bit of an out-there idea that I've had a couple of times.
> Occasionally, when doing an on-street survey in populated areas, I've
> thought that the sight of some random stranger walking the street making
> notes about the buildings that he's passing & checking out must look a bit
> suspicious! :-)
> Once, when I was writing down shop names in a shopping centre, I've even
> been asked what I was doing, & explained that I was gathering details to
> improve local maps.
> It would be "nice" if we could walk around with a photo ID, emblazoned OSM
> Oceania (or maybe Australia / NZ / Fiji etc etc?) dangling around our
> necks, as it would look a lot more "professional" & "official".
> At the same time, also have some brochures produced explaining what OSM is
> about, what we do & how everybody can contribute, & pass them out to
> anybody interested.
> Worthwhile?
> Thanks
> Graeme
> On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 13:03, Brendan Barnes <brenbarnes at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Suggestions:
>> Loanable equipment such as high-precision handheld GPS units for GPS
>> traces, and Waylens or 360 degree cameras for KartaView image sequences.
>> Similar to the equipment loan program in Europe
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GPS_Units_for_Loan
>> Hardware for a loanable KartaView rig project, such as a "trekking-style"
>> backpack for OSM hikers, or a HD multi-camera, high-precision GPS car rig.
>> Funding to help secure more OSM hardware hosting sponsors in the region.
>> Currently we only have two Tile Servers, and they are both located in
>> Melbourne, Australia.
>> Drone mapping infrastructure, such as a community Open Drone Map cloud
>> server, to process orthorectified aerial imagery.
>> On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 at 17:32, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au <
>> talk-au at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>>> 9 Jul 2021, 03:06 by eneerhut at gmail.com:
>>>    - Funding for OSM related software development
>>> What about projects that are not
>>> targeting specifically Oceania needs but
>>> as useful elsewhere?
>>> Is it going to be lower priority, with
>>> Oceania-focused project having a clear
>>> preference?
>>> Or is it not useful to even propose them?
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