[talk-au] Wide-ranging changeset that merges tags from addresses, shops and buildings

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

Thanks for letting us know, Stephane!

Yes, it worries me a bit that somebody would make changes world-wide on
their first day, & as you say, also consolidate multiple things into one :-(

Thanks

Graeme


On Wed, 5 May 2021 at 12:19, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with the concerns you raised in the changeset comment, and that
> the changesets are well-meaning, so let's see if and how they respond
> first. There are only a handful of changesets all from 18 days ago at this
> point.
>
> On Wed, 5 May 2021 at 11:12, Stéphane Guillou <
> stephane.guillou at member.fsf.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I am *respectfully *writing to hear what you think about this changeset
>> from a seemingly new contributor. I definitely don't want to publicly shame
>> someone's well-meaning contribution, but after commenting on the changeset,
>> I want to:
>>
>>    - Inform others that the area they contribute to might have been
>>    affected too
>>    - Know what other contributors think about the nature of the changes,
>>    given that I have very little experience with fixing / reverting changes
>>    that affect such large areas.
>>
>> You will notice from the changeset history of the contibutor
>> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Australets/history> that all their
>> changesets were submitted on one single day, the day they created their OSM
>> account, and that they affect very distant areas around the world (which
>> makes me think there isn't much local knowledge involved).
>>
>> The changeset that affects the area I am familiar with is changeset
>> 103074912 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/103074912>. But if
>> you live around Geraldton (WA), you might also be interested in this one:
>> 103072911 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/103072911>.
>>
>> Here is the message I wrote after I noticed the changes in my area, so
>> you have a better idea of my concerns, but given the size of the changeset,
>> I haven't been able to give it a thorough review.
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Hi Australets! I was wondering about the motivation between this
>> changeset, as it changed quite a few things in the area where I contribute.
>> What is the idea behind merging addresses, buildings and points of
>> interest? I know there are different opinions on the matter, but I can see
>> definite drawbacks in the merging you did, at least in some cases. For
>> example, some of the resulting buildings end up having a "source" tag that
>> used to refer to only the address, but now seems to refer to the whole
>> object.
>> See for example this one:
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/401769723/history
>> In other cases, the main building is apartments but now has the name of
>> one single shop included in it:
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/444096785/history
>> In many cases, one single key could have a different values for a
>> building and a point of interest, even though the general rule "One
>> feature, one OSM element" applies. (e.g. address, name, contact,
>> source...). Separate POIs are also helpful for shops to more precisely show
>> in the building where it is located.
>> Let me know what you think!
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Any input would be appreciated, especially tips about the way forward!
>>
>> Cheers
>>
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