[talk-au] Wide-ranging changeset that merges tags from addresses, shops and buildings

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Fri May 14 10:00:35 UTC 2021


Well no response 9 days later.
Wait another ~5 days, to make it a fortnight .... if nothing then revert 
all of them?

On 5/5/21 12:15 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote:
> I agree with the concerns you raised in the changeset comment, and 
> that the changesets are well-meaning, so let's see if and how they 
> respond first. There are only a handful of changesets all from 18 days 
> ago at this point.
>
> On Wed, 5 May 2021 at 11:12, Stéphane Guillou 
> <stephane.guillou at member.fsf.org 
> <mailto:stephane.guillou at member.fsf.org>> wrote:
>
>     Hi all
>
>     I am /respectfully /writing to hear what you think about this
>     changeset from a seemingly new contributor. I definitely don't
>     want to publicly shame someone's well-meaning contribution, but
>     after commenting on the changeset, I want to:
>
>       * Inform others that the area they contribute to might have been
>         affected too
>       * Know what other contributors think about the nature of the
>         changes, given that I have very little experience with fixing
>         / reverting changes that affect such large areas.
>
>     You will notice from the changeset history of the contibutor
>     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Australets/history> that all
>     their changesets were submitted on one single day, the day they
>     created their OSM account, and that they affect very distant areas
>     around the world (which makes me think there isn't much local
>     knowledge involved).
>
>     The changeset that affects the area I am familiar with is
>     changeset 103074912
>     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/103074912>. But if you
>     live around Geraldton (WA), you might also be interested in this
>     one: 103072911 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/103072911>.
>
>     Here is the message I wrote after I noticed the changes in my
>     area, so you have a better idea of my concerns, but given the size
>     of the changeset, I haven't been able to give it a thorough review.
>
>     ---
>
>     Hi Australets! I was wondering about the motivation between this
>     changeset, as it changed quite a few things in the area where I
>     contribute.
>     What is the idea behind merging addresses, buildings and points of
>     interest? I know there are different opinions on the matter, but I
>     can see definite drawbacks in the merging you did, at least in
>     some cases. For example, some of the resulting buildings end up
>     having a "source" tag that used to refer to only the address, but
>     now seems to refer to the whole object.
>     See for example this one:
>     https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/401769723/history
>     In other cases, the main building is apartments but now has the
>     name of one single shop included in it:
>     https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/444096785/history
>     In many cases, one single key could have a different values for a
>     building and a point of interest, even though the general rule
>     "One feature, one OSM element" applies. (e.g. address, name,
>     contact, source...). Separate POIs are also helpful for shops to
>     more precisely show in the building where it is located.
>     Let me know what you think!
>
>     ---
>
>     Any input would be appreciated, especially tips about the way forward!
>
>     Cheers
>
>     -- 
>     Stéphane Guillou
>     http://stragu.gitlab.io/
>
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