[talk-au] Importing 200 emergency markers?

[Kim Oldfield]

Hi,

The markers were installed by the railway, and are maintained by the 
railway. They are pole numbers attached to each telegraph pole along the 
railway. To help emergency services locate points along the railway 
Puffing Billy provided their location to ESTA with the "PBM" prefix.

As the railway created and maintains them I assume they are allowed to 
give permission for others to use them.

Regards,
Kim

On 26/11/21 4:56 pm, Adam Horan wrote:
> Are these emergency markers created and maintained by the Puffing 
> Billy Railway?
>
> If not they might be sharing a dataset with you that they don't have 
> permission to share for this purpose?
>
> Adam
>
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 16:24, <osm.talk-au at thorsten.engler.id.au 
> <mailto:osm.talk-au at thorsten.engler.id.au>> wrote:
>
>     Maybe just create a simple page on the wiki describing what you
>     intent to do along with a link to information about the received
>     permission? Just to make it easier to find in the future if there
>     are any concerns.
>
>     *From:*Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>>
>     *Sent:* Friday, 26 November 2021 13:46
>     *To:* Kim Oldfield <osm at oldfield.wattle.id.au
>     <mailto:osm at oldfield.wattle.id.au>>
>     *Cc:* OSM-Au <talk-au at openstreetmap.org
>     <mailto:talk-au at openstreetmap.org>>
>     *Subject:* Re: [talk-au] Importing 200 emergency markers?
>
>     That sounds fine to me, this email consulting with the community,
>     informing of your plan and what steps you've taken is enough in my
>     opinion.
>
>     I would ask if you could share more information about the
>     permission you obtained? So long as you have sufficient rights to
>     submit the data under the OSM contributor terms.
>
>     On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 04:56, Kim Oldfield via Talk-au
>     <talk-au at openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-au at openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
>
>         Hi,
>
>         I have a list of 200 emergency marker locations along 22km of the
>         Puffing Billy Railway which were provided to me by the railway
>         with
>         permission to include them in OSM.
>
>         I've been reading through
>         https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import
>         <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import> -
>         most of which appears to be geared toward larger imports and
>         using
>         publicly available data with various licenses. The data for my
>         import is
>         not publicly available, and was provided to me when I asked to
>         import it
>         into OSM.
>
>         I've searched overpass-turbo and there are no
>         highway=emergency_access_points, name~"PBM", or ref~"PBM" near
>         the list
>         of nodes I have to import. This indicates that none of the
>         nodes are
>         already mapped.
>
>         Based on the example file on
>         https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM_file_format
>         <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM_file_format> I've
>         converted the
>         emergency marker list into xml, the start of which looks like:
>
>         <?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?>
>         <osm version="0.6">
>         <node id="-3" lat="-37.907468" lon="145.36039">
>            <tag k="ref" v="PBM003"/>
>            <tag k="highway" v="emergency_access_point"/>
>         </node>
>         ...
>
>         In JOSM I can import this file and merge the layer. I'm
>         intending to
>         then upload this with appropriate an comment noting that the
>         data was
>         provided by Puffing Billy Railway with permission to include
>         it in OSM.
>
>         I'm proposing to import this as a one off, single change set
>         under my
>         existing OSM username.
>
>         Is this a reasonable way to do this import? Is there anything
>         else I
>         should do?
>
>         Regards,
>         Kim
>
>
>
>
>
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