[talk-au] Cycling on Victorian paths

[Kim Oldfield]

Hi Andrew and list,

How do we go about formalising these decisions? Is there a vote process, 
or does someone take it upon themselves to document in the wiki any 
consensus we reach on this list?

We should document in the wiki when to add bicycle= and foot= tags which 
duplicate the default values for highway=footway/cycleway? (As per 
Andrew's email below).

We should also decide on, and document the default access rules for 
various highway= values at 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access_restrictions#Australia 
and remove the "Not endorsed by the Australian OSM community (yet)." 
Currently these are mostly the same as "Wordwide", except:

highway=pedestrian - bicycle=yes. Sounds reasonable.
highway=bridleway - bicycle=yes, foot=yes. I don't know enough about 
bridleways in Australia to have an opinion on this.
highway=footway - currently bicycle=yes. This I think should be broken 
up by state to reflect the state laws for adults riding on the footway. 
In Victoria and NSW:  bicycle=no. Is Queensland bicycle=yes? What about 
the other states?
These decisions should be replicated in the Australia or state relations 
with def:... tags so they can be found and used by routing engines.

On 4/10/21 10:14 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote:
> With my DWG hat on, to summarise it looks like Graeme, Tony, Thorsten, 
> Kim all advocate for not blanket tagging bicycle=no to every normal 
> footpath (for the record I also support this, an explicit bicycle=no 
> can still be tagged where signage is indicating such). Matthew has 
> pointed out cases where Sebastian / HighRouleur has added bicycle=no 
> but Mapillary shows bicycle markings. Sebastian, unless all of this 
> you've actually surveyed in person and confirmed that the situation 
> has change recently (happy to be proven if this is the case, though I 
> think it unlikely) then we should proceed to roll back your changes 
> because it's evident it goes against the community wishes here and the 
> bulk changes have brought in these errors.
>
> Sebastian, thanks for joining our mailing list and engaging with this 
> discussion, but due to the consensus indicated here would you be 
> willing to work through and revert these changes you've made?
>
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