[talk-au] Source material.

Brendan Barnes brenbarnes at gmail.com
Mon Oct 18 06:22:23 UTC 2021


On the topic, does anyone know which Vicmap dataset (or any other
licence-compatible dataset) has Victorian State Forest boundaries?

I happened to be looking for this myself this week. Thank you.


On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 at 13:01, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Exactly as Ian's said. We have permission to use Vicmap CC BY data, you
> can search on https://www.data.vic.gov.au/. It looks like a few state
> forest and public land data is available.
>
> On Mon, 18 Oct 2021, 12:08 pm Little Maps, <mapslittle at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all, can I offer a different spin on this - interested to hear
>> feedback. I think the question of whether we have permission to use
>> MapShare is inappropriate.  (And hence the original changeset comment is
>> inaccurate). MapShare is just a data portal. We have permission to use a
>> number of Vic gov datasets in OSM, as listed on the permissions waiver wiki
>> (eg the roads dataset). The Vic gov provides these datasets to the public
>> in a range of ways, including as GIS datasets, on the MapShare page and the
>> VicNames register, amongst others.
>>
>>
>> Hence we have explicit permission to use *some* of the data that is shown
>> on the MapShare site (roads, POI, etc), but not all of it. Similarly, we
>> have permission to use some of the data shown on the VicNames register, but
>> not everything that is shown on the register.
>>
>>
>> This makes it really hard for users to judge which info we can and can’t
>> use, but there’s probably not a simple way around that. The key question
>> here, imo, is whether we have permission to use the dataset that contains
>> the State Forests boundaries.
>>
>>
>> If we do, then the data could be accessed through Mapshare or any other
>> means. If we don’t, then the official boundaries can’t be obtained from any
>> available source. That’s how I interpret it, but I’m basing this
>> interpretation off the fact that we need to seek permission to use each
>> dataset, not the portal it is obtained from. Hope that makes sense. Curious
>> to hear how others view things. Thanks for raising the question Andrew.
>> Cheers Ian
>>
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