[talk-au] Map Note Flood

Mon Apr 4 08:41:41 UTC 2022

Hi Andy,

I am aware of the volunteers doing this great work. My concern was that I had not received a confirmation that the email had been received and a ticket created. This has happened once before and I was led to believe the ticket creation to be automatic on receiving an email.

If its not an automatic process then please accept my apologies and I will make a suggestion that an autoresponder is installed so that we at least know that the email has arrived at the correct location.

Is the correct email address data at openstreetmap.org <mailto:data at openstreetmap.org>  or is it data at otrs.openstreetmap.org <mailto:data at otrs.openstreetmap.org>  which others seemed to have used.

Cheers - Phil

From: Andy Townsend <ajt1047 at gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, 4 April 2022 6:26 PM
To: talk-au at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Map Note Flood

Hello,

Andy from OSM's Data Working Group here. 

> Is there any other way to alert the Data working group? 

With respect, which part of "Please understand that our working group consists of volunteers only who do this job in their spare time. All incoming messages are read but processing them can take a little time." (in the acknowledgement that gets sent out to every DWG ticket) was unclear?  We got Phil's message 6:51 UTC Saturday morning.  The user was blocked in https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/5875 about 49 hours later, across a weekend.  Is that response not snappy enough for you? :)

With regard to the data that they've added, we'll give them a few days to respond to the questions that they have been asked and if we don't hear anything we'll revert and then likely redact the data.

With regard to the original notes, looking at the country feeds such as https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-notes-country?c=Australia , https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-notes-country?c=United%20States and https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-notes-country?c=Canada it seems that most or all of the original notes have been closed and will disappear from the map in a few days.  I'm aware that there are "note cleanup" projects going on in Australia and elsewhere, so hopefully any stragglers will also get dealt with.

Best Regards,

Andy

On 04/04/2022 04:28, Phil Wyatt wrote:

Another 60 changesets this morning!

Is there any other way to alert the Data working group? I suspect there will be over 400 changesets to revert and they will get harder the longer he adds data.

Cheers

From: Phil Wyatt  <mailto:phil at wyatt-family.com> <phil at wyatt-family.com> 
Sent: Monday, 4 April 2022 10:29 AM
To: 'Graeme Fitzpatrick'  <mailto:graemefitz1 at gmail.com> <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>; 'Andrew Davidson'  <mailto:theswavu at gmail.com> <theswavu at gmail.com>; 'OSM - Andrew Harvey'  <mailto:andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com> <andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>
Cc: 'OpenStreetMap'  <mailto:talk-au at openstreetmap.org> <talk-au at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Map Note Flood

Hi Folks,

Can someone else please log a request to the Data Working Group re this user. I suspect me email is not getting to them as I have not even received an acknowledgement as yet (which I gather should be instantaneous)

He is still working away adding road names

Changesets in Australia by PopeyePopcord

 <mailto:data at openstreetmap.org> data at openstreetmap.org

suggested reverts

119223580

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119224938 - maybe dont revert this - SWAVU comment

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Cheers - Phil

From: Phil Wyatt < <mailto:phil at wyatt-family.com> phil at wyatt-family.com> 
Sent: Sunday, 3 April 2022 12:32 PM
To: 'Graeme Fitzpatrick' < <mailto:graemefitz1 at gmail.com> graemefitz1 at gmail.com>; 'Andrew Davidson' < <mailto:theswavu at gmail.com> theswavu at gmail.com>; 'OSM - Andrew Harvey' < <mailto:andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com> andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>
Cc: 'OpenStreetMap' < <mailto:talk-au at openstreetmap.org> talk-au at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Map Note Flood

Hi Folks,

He is back at it in Australia, mainly in aboriginal communities – adding street names and population and still no response for any changeset comments.

I am collecting all the changeset numbers but no response from the data working group as yet

Cheers - Phil

From: Graeme Fitzpatrick < <mailto:graemefitz1 at gmail.com> graemefitz1 at gmail.com> 
Sent: Saturday, 2 April 2022 4:52 PM
To: Andrew Davidson < <mailto:theswavu at gmail.com> theswavu at gmail.com>; OSM - Andrew Harvey < <mailto:andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com> andrew.harvey4 at gmail.com>
Cc: OpenStreetMap < <mailto:talk-au at openstreetmap.org> talk-au at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [talk-au] Map Note Flood

Looks like we have somebody playing games?

https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/3111672#map=15/-12.5048/135.8049

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/PopeyePopcord

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/PopeyePopcord/history#map=6/-18.272/136.714

AndrewH - you may need to swap to DWG hat for a moment?

Thanks

Graeme

On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 at 15:39, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com <mailto:graemefitz1 at gmail.com> > wrote:

Just had a comment made by somebody in the US on one of the Notes I worked on: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/3111658

Apparently copying from HERE.com

They have referred to DWG.

Thanks

Graeme

On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 at 11:50, Andrew Davidson <theswavu at gmail.com <mailto:theswavu at gmail.com> > wrote:

> On looking at the notes added in Australia, they do seem to be an automated script comparing what’s in OSM to an external source.
>
> The notes added to Nhulunbuy, Groote Eylandt and Maningrida don’t seem to be coming from a suitable NT give source. One of the notes suggests a street name for a road I was only able to find in Google Maps.
>

That's the weird bit. They seem to be a mix of stuff from Google Maps
and completely fictional stuff. Maningrida as far as I can tell
doesn't have street names.

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