[talk-au] Country homesteads?

Bob Cameron bob3bob3 at skymesh.com.au
Fri Apr 22 05:27:43 UTC 2022


Remote areas and larger farms generally have been troubling me too 
Graeme. I make no distinction about numbers of people, just a 
landuse=farm node. (so I copied a very prolific mapper!) Recently I 
noted that landuse:farm has been deprecated and to use landuse:farmland, 
but that complains about being a node. There is no easy way to define a 
farm boundary. I think in terms of the mailbox, driveway and largest 
concentration of activity being the node centre.

And the name is the farm name, not the house name.. maybe!

Remote cattle stations can support an extended family (in more than one 
homestead) and other many onsite (staff) people. Are the working farm 
staff include in any people sizing calculations? ouch!

Personally I don't think it a good idea to tag a farm that creates 
commercial income with any notion of the number of people. It gets a bit 
blurry when it is an unusual group like a religious order or non profit 
retreat, but they already have other tags.

Cheers Bob

On 22/4/22 14:55, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Also bringing discussion out here from Discord.
>
> An anonymous user is hitting Notes with quite a few entries yesterday 
> to say that remote homesteads are incorrectly tagged as hamlets eg 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/3145380 
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/3145380>, but looking at this 
> particular place 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?node=1829712552#map=17/-21.96106/148.80882 
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?node=1829712552#map=17/-21.96106/148.80882>, 
> I'd say that "hamlet" was probably correct in that there could well be 
> a couple of families living there?
>
> Other suggestions that have been made are place=isolated_dwelling or 
> place=farm.
>
> Bit of a grey area, I guess? Isolated-dwelling says 1-2 families only, 
> hamlet says 100-200 people, while place=farm says "a family of 
> farmers". Guess it really depends on the particular property involved, 
> which would require detailed local knowledge?
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
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