[talk-au] Country homesteads?

[Warin]

Traditionally the 'homestead' is the main residential building and is 
usually named the same or similar to the farm. I have been mapping in 
NSW the building as building=farm and name=x from the DCS Base Map for 
location and name with DCS Imagery for the footprint. When you zoom in 
on the Base Map the name will be associated with one building by 
proximity and the building will be a filled in black square, other non 
residential buildings tend to be hollow black squares.

The homestead might get 'homestead' appended to the name, and the farm 
might have appended 'Station' or 'Down'. I think this depends on how old 
you are and your local knowledge. My first visit many years ago to Mount 
Wood in the north west of NSW is a case in point .. I was told 'Mount 
Wood Station' for the farm and 'Mount Wood Homestead' for the 
residence... IIRC 'Station' is for cattle and 'Down' is for sheep...

Outback farms tend to have the mail box on the main road and that can be 
quite some distance from the homestead.


On 22/4/22 15:27, Bob Cameron wrote:
>
> Remote areas and larger farms generally have been troubling me too 
> Graeme. I make no distinction about numbers of people, just a 
> landuse=farm node. (so I copied a very prolific mapper!) Recently I 
> noted that landuse:farm has been deprecated and to use 
> landuse:farmland, but that complains about being a node. There is no 
> easy way to define a farm boundary. I think in terms of the mailbox, 
> driveway and largest concentration of activity being the node centre.
>
> And the name is the farm name, not the house name.. maybe!
>
> Remote cattle stations can support an extended family (in more than 
> one homestead) and other many onsite (staff) people. Are the working 
> farm staff include in any people sizing calculations? ouch!
>
> Personally I don't think it a good idea to tag a farm that creates 
> commercial income with any notion of the number of people. It gets a 
> bit blurry when it is an unusual group like a religious order or non 
> profit retreat, but they already have other tags.
>
> Cheers Bob
>
> On 22/4/22 14:55, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
>> Also bringing discussion out here from Discord.
>>
>> An anonymous user is hitting Notes with quite a few entries yesterday 
>> to say that remote homesteads are incorrectly tagged as hamlets eg 
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/3145380 
>> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/3145380>, but looking at this 
>> particular place 
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?node=1829712552#map=17/-21.96106/148.80882 
>> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?node=1829712552#map=17/-21.96106/148.80882>, 
>> I'd say that "hamlet" was probably correct in that there could well 
>> be a couple of families living there?
>>
>> Other suggestions that have been made are place=isolated_dwelling or 
>> place=farm.
>>
>> Bit of a grey area, I guess? Isolated-dwelling says 1-2 families 
>> only, hamlet says 100-200 people, while place=farm says "a family of 
>> farmers". Guess it really depends on the particular property 
>> involved, which would require detailed local knowledge?
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Graeme
>>
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