[talk-au] Surf Clubs & Lifesavers (Prv: Head or point on non-coastal land)

[Warin]

On 1/8/22 13:04, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
>
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 at 17:31, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>     I have a similar difficulty with club=surf_life_saving,
>     emergency=lifesaver, lifesaver=base ... as that does not render.
>     If put
>     on the building then the name of the club renders.. Having gone
>     along the coast of NSW and put them to nodes and entered a few
>     more off the DCS Base Map .. I am now going along and setting the
>     details on the associated building... sigh.
>
>
> Warin & I have discussed this topic recently on a changeset: 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/123785819, & are sort of in 
> two minds about it, so it's probably a good idea to put it out to get 
> everybody's thoughts.
>
> I've recently finished tidying up & adding details right along the GC 
> beaches, including all the Surf Clubs.
>
> As most of you would know, Surf Clubs & SLSCs are, more or less, two 
> separate things - the Surf Club is the social side of things, which 
> houses the bar, restaurant & Gaming Room, is usually open to the 
> public, seven days/week, from morning till late at night, & is usually 
> upstairs in the building.
>
> The actual SLSC / lifesavers are downstairs in that building, where 
> the First Aid room is located, are usually only present Sa-Su 8-18 
> between Sept - April. They will frequently have a different contact 
> number / website/page to the Surf Club.
>
> I have been tagging them like so: 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/41751839, as a building named "xxx 
> Surf Club", tagged as a club= surf_life_saving; together with a 
> separate node for the SLSC: 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5419450227, named "xxx SLSC", 
> tagged as emergency=lifeguard + lifeguard=base + leisure=sports_centre 
> (which I know is certainly not great, but is the only way I can find 
> to render the name as lifeguard doesn't render :-(), together with 
> their operating hours & contact details.
>
> So, what do we all think is the best option for having, & showing, 2 
> lots of info for the same premises?


That particular premises carries the name "Tugun SLSC" across the top of 
the building as can be seen on their website http://www.tugunslsc.com.au/


The name "Tugun Surf Club" appears on 
http://www.tugunslsc.com.au/bar-gaming/, but the URL says tugunslsc and 
the banner at the top of the page says "Tugun Surf Life Saving Club".


I am of the view that the "Tugun Surf Club" is a simple shortening of 
the "Tugun Surf Life Saving Club".


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The reason for placing the 'life saving' aspect on the building is one 
of rendering .. it gets the SLSC name to appear.


The bisatro cold be entered as a simple node with amenity=restaurant , 
this does render, see http://www.tugunslsc.com.au/bistro/ for contact 
details.. note no "Tugun Surf Club" appears here


The bar could be entered as amenity=licensed_club .. does not render. 
The gambling as amenity = gambling, I don't know if this renders I 
suspect not.


The email addresses are all @tugunslsc.com.au and they all share a 
common phone number.. thus I think they are not 2, 3 or 4 separate 
'clubs' but one club with a few features. Much like a bowls club, an 
RSL, a golf club .. etc etc.




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