[talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

[Phil Wyatt]

Hi Sebastian,

 

I suppose for me it’s a question of should OSM hold a name which can be made from other attributes and does it fit with the name and charging wikis?

 

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcharging_station

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name

 

Do tesla chargers/charge areas also have reference numbers like other networks? This usually goes in the ref key.

 

I suspect many of these are ‘named’ simply so they get a label in the carto map without people realising that the operator and ref are used for labelling charging stations in that map instance. 

 

Other apps may well use other OSM attributes.

 

Some interesting ‘name’ insights in this post as well

 

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SimonPoole/diary/397565

 

Cheers – Phil

 

From: Sebastian S. <mapping at consebt.de> 
Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2022 10:34 PM
To: talk-au at openstreetmap.org; Phil Wyatt <phil at wyatt-family.com>; 'Warin' <61sundowner at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

 

Hello all,

As an EV driver I think that some charge stations have names.

I do agree that 'Tesla Supercharger ' is not a name with much value. Tesla has names in their app for these charging stations, e.g. 'Tesla Supercharger Hollydene, NSW' or 'Tesla Supercharger Central Coast, NSW'. For the latter the name is not the same as the address which is one of my key reasons to have the name tag, full length.

Aside from the Tesla supercharger there will be other large high current or DC charging stations that in my view warrant a name. Mainly because the are or will be key stopover points that people will navigate to.

But I'm also of the opinion that the name of the Woolworths in Dee Why is ' Woolworths Dee Why '

Seb

On 15 December 2022 8:23:19 pm AEDT, Phil Wyatt <phil at wyatt-family.com <mailto:phil at wyatt-family.com> > wrote:

Thanks Warin,

 

Its pretty obvious that most are not real names but actually descriptions or operators/networks and locations

 

https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1p4N

 

Cheers - Phil

 

 

From: Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2022 8:00 PM
To: talk-au at openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-au at openstreetmap.org> 
Subject: Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

 

 

On 15/12/22 17:11, Ben Kelley wrote:

My thoughts:

 

I wouldn't remove the names. It's a big call to say that this thing definitely does not have a name, when someone else says it does, especially if 50% have a name.

 

"Tesla supercharger" is not an individual name, probably a brand. And there would be many that have that "name" in the world. It would be like tagging some petrol stations with 'name=Shell'. 

The easiest thing to do is change the key 'name' to 'description', that way OSM looses no information. 

Then add tags for brand/operator/ref/*. 

 

 

 - Ben.

 

On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 at 14:24, Phil Wyatt <phil at wyatt-family.com <mailto:phil at wyatt-family.com> > wrote:

Hi Folks,

 

Thoughts on 'named' EV chargers? Around 50% of chargers in Oz have some 'name'.

 

Most look to be adding the either the location or name of the operator etc (ie Freds Shop, XYZ carpark, Tesla supercharger etc), I suspect so it gets rendered on the map. 

 

Are folks happy if I remove the names. I will ensure that no details are lost by making sure any operator or network details gets added to the correct tags.

 

(I will also post to Oceania Forum and Discord)

 

[Overpass query](https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1p4u)

 

Cheers - Phil

 




 

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