[talk-au] Consistent addr:state format?

[tabjsina]

In this case I intend to specifically only update tags that already have 
a state field defined, rather than populating the empty ones. Andrew, do 
you think that adjusting the existing tag values to match the VIC 
majority would go against the coming data import plans you mentioned?

-Justin

On 30/1/2022 1:09 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote:
> Many people would be mapping because iD has a template which includes 
> state, so people see an empty field and try to enter more complete 
> information. Many people new to OSM don't know that addresses inherit 
> state and suburb from the existing boundaries.
> 
>  From the VIC address import work there was opposition to including 
> addr:state so this hasn't been included (I'm hoping to finalise that 
> with the final import files and import date very soon), and it was 
> proposed removing the suburb and state fields from the address template 
> in iD. Also in that thread there were a few reasons given for also 
> including the state/suburb tags (easier to obtain this info when 
> querying specific addresses, saves further processing work).
> 
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 at 10:30, Kim Oldfield via Talk-au 
> <talk-au at openstreetmap.org 
> <mailto:talk-au at openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi,
> 
>     Is there any advantage to tagging addresses with the state when the
>     state is already well defined in OSM and the state for a given address
>     location can be obtained from existing map data?
> 
>     I'm not criticising Justin's work - improved consistency is good. I'm
>     asking the open ended question: is there a better way of recording this
>     data that avoids duplication?
> 
>     Regards,
>     Kim
> 
>     On 29/1/22 23:56, tabjsina wrote:
>      > Hello,
>      >
>      > I'm new to this mailing list (and mailing lists in general),
>     apologies
>      > if I'm doing it wrong :)
>      >
>      > I've recently made a maproulette challenge which asked users to
>      > confirm updating any populating addr:state value in Western
>     Australia
>      > to "WA", if it was something else. Previously, about 90% were
>     already
>      > "WA", 9% were a variation like "Western Australia", "wa"
>     (lowercase),
>      > and the remaining were something completely wrong, like "AU" or a
>      > suburb/city name.
>      >
>      > Now that WA is all fixed, I was looking at other states, and noticed
>      > that, while most states also had a similar 90% rate of using
>     acronym,
>      > NSW and moreso VIC had a closer split between the acronym and the
>     full
>      > name.
>      >
>      > Before I go ahead with setting up this maproulette challenge for the
>      > rest of the country, I wanted to get some thoughts on whether it
>     makes
>      > sense to standardize around using acronyms (WA, ACT, NSW, NT, QLD,
>      > VIC, SA, TAS), full name (Western Australia, Australian Capital
>      > Territory, etc), or whether we should not be trying to standardise
>      > this value at all.
>      >
>      > Thanks,
>      > Justin
>      >
>      >
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