[talk-au] Cycle permissions by a user

forster at ozonline.com.au forster at ozonline.com.au
Sat Oct 8 07:08:09 UTC 2022


Hi Sebastian Azagra,

Thank you for joining in the discussions. Michael Collinson wrote "I  
continue to welcome him (Sebastian) in our OSM community". I second  
that. Though I have some problems with your bicycle edits, I am very  
appreciative of the hard work you do to support OSM.

I have feedback from Ewen Hill, Michael Collinson, Graeme Fitzpatrick,  
Ian Steer and Warin which appear to support my position. Only Ben  
Kelley might support Sebastian's position, he writes "In NSW by  
default it is not allowed (unless signpost as a shared path). I assume  
Victoria is the same".

Ben, I would like to ask you some additional questions to tease out  
your opinions. You are more familiar with NSW law, I am happy for you  
to assume Victorian and NSW law to be the same for the purposes of  
this discussion.

1) Was Sebastian justified in removing bicycle=yes from way 1008258040 ?
2) Are no signs present to indicated bikes are permitted sufficient  
evidence that bicycles are disallowed?
3) For the following 3 examples assume there is no signage, would  
addition of bicycle=no or deletion of bicycle=yes be justified?

3a) A typical footpath in the sidewalk sense:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-37.896764706666&lng=145.28943507&z=17&pKey=428476962255750&focus=photo

3b) A path with almost no access to residental properties, parallel  
with a freeway or arterial road:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-37.99755833333299&lng=145.16624444444005&z=17&pKey=469416987632807&focus=photo

3c) A path not associated with a road:

https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-37.924151150055&lng=145.32763449&z=17&pKey=494613405004623&focus=photo

Thanks
Tony





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