[talk-au] Cycle permissions by a user
Warin
61sundowner at gmail.com
Sat Oct 8 09:46:43 UTC 2022
On 8/10/22 18:08, forster at ozonline.com.au wrote:
> Hi Sebastian Azagra,
>
> Thank you for joining in the discussions. Michael Collinson wrote "I
> continue to welcome him (Sebastian) in our OSM community". I second
> that. Though I have some problems with your bicycle edits, I am very
> appreciative of the hard work you do to support OSM.
>
> I have feedback from Ewen Hill, Michael Collinson, Graeme Fitzpatrick,
> Ian Steer and Warin which appear to support my position. Only Ben
> Kelley might support Sebastian's position, he writes "In NSW by
> default it is not allowed (unless signpost as a shared path). I assume
> Victoria is the same".
>
> Ben, I would like to ask you some additional questions to tease out
> your opinions. You are more familiar with NSW law, I am happy for you
> to assume Victorian and NSW law to be the same for the purposes of
> this discussion.
>
> 1) Was Sebastian justified in removing bicycle=yes from way 1008258040 ?
> 2) Are no signs present to indicated bikes are permitted sufficient
> evidence that bicycles are disallowed?
> 3) For the following 3 examples assume there is no signage, would
> addition of bicycle=no or deletion of bicycle=yes be justified?
>
> 3a) A typical footpath in the sidewalk sense:
>
> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-37.896764706666&lng=145.28943507&z=17&pKey=428476962255750&focus=photo
>
>
> 3b) A path with almost no access to residental properties, parallel
> with a freeway or arterial road:
>
> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-37.99755833333299&lng=145.16624444444005&z=17&pKey=469416987632807&focus=photo
>
>
> 3c) A path not associated with a road:
>
> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-37.924151150055&lng=145.32763449&z=17&pKey=494613405004623&focus=photo
>
>
>
NSW bicycle laws:
https://www.nsw.gov.au/driving-boating-and-transport/roads-safety-and-rules/bicycle-safety-and-rules/cyclist-road-rules
Almost at the bottom of that page are the footpath exceptions .. under
16 for NSW .. Vic is under 14?
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