[talk-au] Cycle permissions by a user

[Dian Ågesson]

Hi all,

The "best" tagging for some of these paths are inherently subjective, as 
there isn't a tagging method that captures the subtleties involved.

Firstly, distinguishing between a "foot way" and a sidewalk is a 
subjective decision. How far from a road does a parallel path be before 
it is no longer a sidewalk, for example.

Secondly, there are multiple overlapping jurisdictions. In addition to 
each state's road laws, each council's local laws may prohibit or allow 
cyclists in specific areas. I don't expect an average mapper to have a 
law degree, and, though it should be easy, it may not able to work out 
the exact legality of riding a bicycle in all situations.

The best mapping will always rely on discretion. I don't believe it is 
correct to assume a lack of signage is, on its own, enough to tag one 
way or another. At most, I would suggest a "bicycle=permissive" 
restriction to indicate the unclear legality on even well used paths.

I don't think going around adding a specific bicycle permissions to 
every footway is particularly productive. A routing service could easily 
make this a non-issue by offering an "ignore sidewalk" button.

Dian

On 2022-10-09 09:43, Sebastian Azagra via Talk-au wrote:

> An interesting post by aharvey in that thread.
> 
> https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/use-of-bicycle-designated-vs-bicycle-yes-outside-of-germany/3230/38
> 
> regards,
> 
> Sebastian
> 
>> On 9 Oct 2022, at 9:19 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
> 
>> To open another can of worms, just spotted this linked from 
>> discussions on a completely different proposal:
>> 
>> https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/use-of-bicycle-designated-vs-bicycle-yes-outside-of-germany/3230/23
>> 
>> So, what is the relation between designated & yes?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Graeme
> 
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