[talk-au] Changing building levels elevator to description elevator shell

[Warin]

On 24/10/22 17:16, Phil Wyatt wrote:
>
> Many thanks Sigurjon
>
> I don’t suppose you have accessibility data as well? That would be 
> great to know as well.
>
>   * wheelchair=yes/no – suitable for wheelchairs?
>

They were put in for things like wheelchairs.. so yes they take 
wheelchairs, and prams and bicycles

>  *
>
>
>   * tactile_writing:braille:lg=yes/no?
>

I'll have a look next time .. but I think they have tactile things on 
the buttons too..

>  *
>
>
> Cheers - Phil
>
> *From:*Sigurjón Gísli Rúnarsson <sjonni11 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 24 October 2022 3:37 PM
> *To:* Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Phil Wyatt <phil at wyatt-family.com>; OSM Australian Talk List 
> <talk-au at openstreetmap.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [talk-au] Changing building levels elevator to 
> description elevator shell
>
> Hi Warin,
>
> Apologies for not getting back to you and acting on this.
>
> We will revisit all these locations and update in the coming days.
>
> Below is how we plan to tag the two typical scenarios:
>
> *inside a building *
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/993829900 
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/993829900>
>
> highway=elevator
>

The highway=elevator already exists within these ways as a single node. 
See example 2 below .. where someone has used it like this.

> building:levels=2
>
That would mean it only is on building level 2.. and it would not go 
from another building level.
>
> indoor=room
>
That would mean it is within a larger building...
>
> room=elevator
>

For pedestrian navigation the highway=elevator as a single node and the 
connected highway=footway should work..


Indoor mapping is not my thing .. I don't think many here have tried it.


Some examples may help?

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/281120247

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/350884415 note here the duplication 
using https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3566114780 and the node is what 
the footways connect to.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3446811813

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/534454027

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4037948794

> *outside building (stand alone) *
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/993533793 
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/993533793>
>
> highway=elevator
>
> building:levels=3
>
> building:yes
>
> description=elevator shell
>
That would mean it only is on building level 3.. and it would not go 
to/from another building level.
>
> Please let me know if you are not happy with this approach.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sigurjon
>
> TfNSW
>
> On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 at 22:27, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>     On 23/10/22 21:46, Phil Wyatt wrote:
>     > Hi Warin,
>     >
>     > Both of those examples were previously build:part=elevator. Its
>     probably
>     > worth asking why they changed them to building:levels=elevator.
>     That seems
>     > to be a more appropriate tagging.
>
>
>     building:part should be a 'part' of a building .. not the entire
>     building .. they are both tagged with building=yes.
>
>     One example
>
>     https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/996164524/history
>
>     has no past history .. so no previous key of building:part.
>
>
>     I'd have no problem with building=elevator_shell, but they are
>     building=yes. I am happy to change that too, if acceptable?
>
>     I have been using building=silo with man_made=silo (key building for
>     rendering the area .. man_made just does a symbol).
>
>
>     >
>     > Cheers - Phil
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com>
>     > Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2022 8:41 PM
>     > To: OSM Australian Talk List <talk-au at openstreetmap.org>
>     > Subject: [talk-au] Changing building levels elevator to
>     description elevator
>     > shell
>     >
>     > Hi
>     >
>     > There are ~260 of closed ways with the tag
>     'building:levels=elevator'.
>     >
>     > This tag should have numbers as the value not text, the number
>     being the
>     > number of levels.
>     >
>     > See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:levels.
>     >
>     >
>     > These object all are associated with railway stations around
>     Sydney and
>     > appear to have been added by members of TfNSW team. I have left
>     a message on
>     > one of their members changeset but have had no reply.
>     >
>     > There are no other uses of this tag elsewhere in the world.
>     >
>     >
>     > My thoughts are to change the tag to 'description=elevator
>     shell' as these
>     > look to be the walls around the outside of the moving elevator
>     that is
>     > presently mapped as a node in these cases.
>     >
>     >
>     > Examples
>     >
>     > Way 993829900 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/993829900
>     >
>     > Way 996164524 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/996164524
>     >
>     >
>     > Any thoughts?
>     >
>     >
>     >
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