[talk-au] NSW Fire Station names

[cleary]

I have one further comment about obsolete information on the DCS NSW Base Map.  Located at 744 Carnarvon Highway, just north of Moree is a building that is labelled on the Base Map as OTC Satellite Earth Station. As far as I could find out, it ceased to have that purpose about 35 years ago but it has never been changed on the Base Map . That is the most obsolete item that I have identified but it is a reminder that names on the Base Map are not necessarily current.



On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, at 8:54 AM, cleary wrote:
> The DCS NSW Base Map is a great resource but some aspects do not seem 
> to get updated e.g. roads that were once public but are now private may 
> still appear on the map to have former status (e.g. parts of 
> unincorporated area in western NSW), re-named roads may still show old 
> names, waterways show names contrary to those signposted at locations 
> (e.g. in Murray River LGA). As far as I can ascertain, there is no 
> regular process for updating the Base Map and it seems to depend on 
> each particular agency such as the local government body, Roads and 
> Maritime Services, Rural Fire Service or Health Service to instigate 
> changes of details for their assets. It does not always happen. 
>
> In the past I have contacted local councils about some conflicting 
> information and always have been given information that the Base Map 
> showed obsolete information. In regard to fire stations, I would think 
> the operators, Fire and Rescue NSW or the Rural Fire Service would be 
> the most authoritative sources regarding names for their facilities.
>
> The Base Map is a wonderful resource that I have used extensively but I 
> have learned that if there is contradictory information from another 
> source, especially survey or the operators of the facilities, then the 
> information from the other source should prevail.
>
>
>
> On Sat, 11 Feb 2023, at 9:58 PM, Warin wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I came across this while separating amenity=fire_station from their 
>> building=*. The object is to map the amenity with all the name, 
>> operator, etc tags on the amenity and leave the building alone.
>>
>> The names on the DCS Base Map do not match some of the names on the OSM map.
>>
>> For Fire and Rescue NSW the DCS base map has, for example ‘Lane Cove 
>> Fire Station’ while OSM has ‘Fire and Rescue NSW Station 167 Lane Cove 
>> (in the tagging guidelines). The number appears to be a ‘station number’ 
>> – see https://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/station_list/ The names there on the 
>> station list comply with the DCS Base Map … and it is how I would ask 
>> for them at the pub/in the street. I think the number may be best 
>> entered under the tag ‘ref=*’ and the name as per the DCS Base Map. So 
>> I'd like to change the names to comply wit the DCS Base Map.
>>
>> Additional notes?
>>
>> The name tag is for 'the common name'.
>>
>> The long winded name looks to be some 'public service' name for pollies 
>> to use  ..
>>
>> And we have official_name ... "Useful where there is some elaborate 
>> official name, while a different one is a common name typically used"
>>
>>
>> The quoted text comes from the OSM wiki.. honest.
>>
>> ----------------------------------
>>
>> For the Rural Fire Service some names are ‘Nowhere Rural Fire Service’ 
>> where the DCS Base Map would have ‘Nowhere RFB’ (‘Nowhere’ is an example 
>> – don’t have one to hand). I take ‘RFB’ to be an abbreviation of ‘Rural 
>> Fire Brigade’, where as  Rural Fire Service is an abbreviation of the 
>> operator.
>>
>>   I think ‘Nowhere Rural Fire Brigade’ is the correct name.
>>
>> Thoughts??
>>
>>
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