[talk-au] NSW Fire Station names

[Warin]

On 12/2/23 09:30, cleary wrote:
> I have one further comment about obsolete information on the DCS NSW Base Map.  Located at 744 Carnarvon Highway, just north of Moree is a building that is labelled on the Base Map as OTC Satellite Earth Station. As far as I could find out, it ceased to have that purpose about 35 years ago but it has never been changed on the Base Map . That is the most obsolete item that I have identified but it is a reminder that names on the Base Map are not necessarily current.


Not a question of current but the normal, common, format of these 'names'.


Fire Station:

I gave one link to a table with 'names', and 'station numbers' from Fire 
and Rescue NSW that has the same names as DCS.

Press reports state the name in the same format;

Bombala Fire Station - 
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-08/bombala-fire-rescue-inspiring-female-firefighters/12741618 
- Later in the report there is a link to 
https://www.facebook.com/bombala230?fref=mentions and that uses 'Fire 
and Rescue NSW Station 230 Bombala' but in their text they use 'Station 
230' and 'FRNSW Bombala'.

Dungog Fire Station 
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-07/fire-and-rescue-nsw-investigating-claims-at-dungog-fire-station/11566342


Rural Fire Brigade:


"The NSW RFS comprises almost 2,000 rural fire brigades " 
https://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/about-us

Press

Silverton Rural Fire Brigade 
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2008-08-20/firefighters-fear-station-closure/482634



>
>
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2023, at 8:54 AM, cleary wrote:
>> The DCS NSW Base Map is a great resource but some aspects do not seem
>> to get updated e.g. roads that were once public but are now private may
>> still appear on the map to have former status (e.g. parts of
>> unincorporated area in western NSW), re-named roads may still show old
>> names, waterways show names contrary to those signposted at locations
>> (e.g. in Murray River LGA). As far as I can ascertain, there is no
>> regular process for updating the Base Map and it seems to depend on
>> each particular agency such as the local government body, Roads and
>> Maritime Services, Rural Fire Service or Health Service to instigate
>> changes of details for their assets. It does not always happen.
>>
>> In the past I have contacted local councils about some conflicting
>> information and always have been given information that the Base Map
>> showed obsolete information. In regard to fire stations, I would think
>> the operators, Fire and Rescue NSW or the Rural Fire Service would be
>> the most authoritative sources regarding names for their facilities.
>>
>> The Base Map is a wonderful resource that I have used extensively but I
>> have learned that if there is contradictory information from another
>> source, especially survey or the operators of the facilities, then the
>> information from the other source should prevail.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 11 Feb 2023, at 9:58 PM, Warin wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I came across this while separating amenity=fire_station from their
>>> building=*. The object is to map the amenity with all the name,
>>> operator, etc tags on the amenity and leave the building alone.
>>>
>>> The names on the DCS Base Map do not match some of the names on the OSM map.
>>>
>>> For Fire and Rescue NSW the DCS base map has, for example ‘Lane Cove
>>> Fire Station’ while OSM has ‘Fire and Rescue NSW Station 167 Lane Cove
>>> (in the tagging guidelines). The number appears to be a ‘station number’
>>> – seehttps://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/station_list/  The names there on the
>>> station list comply with the DCS Base Map … and it is how I would ask
>>> for them at the pub/in the street. I think the number may be best
>>> entered under the tag ‘ref=*’ and the name as per the DCS Base Map. So
>>> I'd like to change the names to comply wit the DCS Base Map.
>>>
>>> Additional notes?
>>>
>>> The name tag is for 'the common name'.
>>>
>>> The long winded name looks to be some 'public service' name for pollies
>>> to use  ..
>>>
>>> And we have official_name ... "Useful where there is some elaborate
>>> official name, while a different one is a common name typically used"
>>>
>>>
>>> The quoted text comes from the OSM wiki.. honest.
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------
>>>
>>> For the Rural Fire Service some names are ‘Nowhere Rural Fire Service’
>>> where the DCS Base Map would have ‘Nowhere RFB’ (‘Nowhere’ is an example
>>> – don’t have one to hand). I take ‘RFB’ to be an abbreviation of ‘Rural
>>> Fire Brigade’, where as  Rural Fire Service is an abbreviation of the
>>> operator.
>>>
>>>    I think ‘Nowhere Rural Fire Brigade’ is the correct name.
>>>
>>> Thoughts??
>>>
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