[talk-au] Dual naming in NSW

Ben Ritter benjaminaritter at gmail.com
Tue Jun 6 02:39:55 UTC 2023


I agree that in places where a joint name is in use, that should be
documented as `name=Booraghee / Bradleys Head`as. From a data perspective,
I think it is also useful to know that the english called it (in english
spelling) `name:en=Bradleys Head` and the locals called it (in local
romanised spelling) `name:aus=Booraghee`.

I have no great understanding of the languages involved, but I want to see
it as "Booraghee / Bradleys Head" on most maps (because that's part of our
cultural style, as documented in the quoted policy). On the other hand,
when I hook up a routing text-to-speech engine, I'm going to have a much
better time pronouncing the spelling of `name:en` and `name:aus`. Even
better after someone in the know replaces the vague and non-specific `:aus`
form with the actual language(s).

On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 at 09:27, Little Maps <mapslittle at gmail.com> wrote:

> This may depend on the specific place but in many places I believe Phil’s
> interpretation is correct and Andrew’s is inappropriate. Many places and
> reserves now have joint management or co-ownership, and dual/joint names.
> Joint names are not alternative names. John Roberts-Smith is John
> Roberts-Smith. He is not John Roberts and/or alt-name John Smith. The Rock
> Nature Reserve / Kengal Aboriginal Place is a legislated reserve. This is
> the legislated name, as described in the management plan and signposted on
> all new signs. Since OSM maps what is on the ground, we should include the
> entire joint name in the one name tag. We are not listing alternatives, we
> are presenting the entire, signposted, legal name in the one tag.
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