[talk-au] Bulloo Developmental Rd and Adventure Way FSWQ

[Bob Cameron]

Graeme and Owen

Originally I didn't know that Adventure Way was actually a tourist 
route. Not something I usually map or modify, but have recently done a 
spate of highway to local name changes when traversing towns.

However

Yes the guideline cover it more or less. Seems to be missing out on some 
parts of the network tag though. I have (Owen) seen dual signs (out 
west) with both the tourist and standard route markings. I'd suggest 
that "AW" etc be adopted as ref=* rather than appending to network=* 
This will also make it kind of align with the other tourist drive naming.

The driving experience PDF actually covers both the SSTR's and Tourist 
Drives.

Adventure, Matilda and Savannah Ways also traverse states, even though 
it seems a Qld source thing. This may mess up the utilisation of the OSM 
network name. eg network=AU:QLD:SSTR would end up in SA, NT and WA. 
(noting the guideline item on this) Whatever the case, Adventure Way 
might route/route relation code as;
ref=AW
network=AU:QLD:SSTR:Adventure
     or AU:SSTR:Adventure - which would then get confusing for comparing 
with other Qld only SSTR tags.

I also wonder at the use of a way alt_name rather than a relation when 
it comes to local town naming of a highway. It might be nice to have a 
guideline item on how to put it all together, with a few more (complex) 
examples. ie where to use the route/network tags on ways and/or 
relations both in and out of towns. eg Eulo's main street;
Way
- name=Leo Street
- alt_name=Bulloo Developmental Road
- ref=49
- network=AU:QLD:S
Route/road relation 1
- ref=49
- network=AU:QLD:S
Route/road relation 2
- name=Adventure Way
- ref=AW
- network=AU:QLD:SSTR:Adventure
Is this all complete?

I'll just keep it in mind at this point. I only use ID so don't have the 
tools (or cognition) to make sweeping changes/adds.

Tnxs for your remarks

Bob


On 18/9/24 09:01, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Isn't this all covered under the Guidelines already? 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Roads#Routes
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
> On Tue, 17 Sept 2024 at 20:42, Owen Clancy <oweneclancy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Hi Bob
>
>     That would be more of less consistent with the State Strategic
>     Tourism Route that runs through our town. There is an official
>     network of these "drive tourism" routes that criss crosses
>     Queensland, and almost all the Queensland A roads have tourist
>     route alternates. There is a map of them in this PDF from TMR
>     https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/communityandenvironment/touristservicesigns/driving-experiences.pdf
>     They also all have route designators, e.g. AW for adventure way,
>     although adding that might be of limited benefit is it is not
>     signposted as AW. Some however are signposted very well.
>     Notionally the Adventure Way runs west from Brisbane, along with
>     the Warrego Way to Dalby, but west of Brisbane the Warrego Higway
>     is mostly signposted with the alternate name Darren Lockyer Way.
>     If you were going to be consistent with our local route (ACW) -
>     well signposted around here - you would add AU:QLD:SSTR:AW
>
>     Cheers
>
>
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